Thank you, that’s good info. Is that so even on the Volla phone?
That always worked just fine for me. Well, sometimes there is a few seconds delay, but I don’t really see that as an issue.
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Honestly, to me the mail app is perfect
It has the most sane and logical ui and it’s working rather good
I have two accounts set as push and three set as trigger to check, and they work flawlessy
The browser is meh, meaning that is not bad per se, it’s just having an old engine, and you will have problems with cloudflare until is updated (no timeframe when), which unfortunately is becoming more and more used
Camera is good for taking daylight pictures, meh for low light conditions and almost unservable at night, this while with android i had a fantastic cam even at night, but luckily i’m not into photos so that’s ok for me
You may want to consider this, and take into consideration it’s on an old xa2, maybe with newer models you will have a better camera…
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Thanks guys!
I discovered last night that Volla OS allows multiboot. So, l’m wondering:
- Could l install Sailfish as a multiboot option alongside Volla OS on a Volla Phone 22 / X23?
- Would all the multiboot options draw on the same user data (i.e. photos stored on my device memory and my SD card memory, and also browser bookmarks, possibly also weather and map apps in compatibility mode, and telephone contacts list)?
- Could a weakness in one multiboot OS cause the entire device to be virused?
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Do you know if the eMail app updates regularly (= showing recent eMails quite quickly) with SFOS on the Xiaomi Note 10?
X 10 III. But it has always worked fine since 10 years. From the first Jolla Phone, mail app is never a problem.
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Pretty sure that depends on the email provider and the code in the email app (service?), the device only matters if wifi or mobile data are actually working etc.
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Using an official sony xperia xa2
I have 2 pec mails, 2 hotmails and 1 vivaldi mail
They seems to work good
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I use a vollaphone, a volla 22 (GS5) and a rephone. and a 10III sony. all of them, as you would expect do SMTP, as you would expect. I do also run my own mail servers, so, maybe it’s just a matter of knowing mail? But, I don’t have issues with mail on any port or official release.
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I have to admit that I failed to get multiboot working with the Volla22 and X23. But, I’m probably just not willing enough to fight with android bootloader foo.
The volla/gigaset phones ALL have issues. But are generally usable. Which is to say, everything works, but is sometimes flaky. For instance, when rebooting, turn off the active SIM 1. More on this board 
I haven’t compared for a while, but on the volla/gigaset phones, the browser has become a real pain. But, I’m also doing very aggressive host blocking via dns blocklists, so maybe the internet doesn’t like me
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Heh, I would go as far as internet doesnt like us.
(OT: The megabytes of javascript and caniuse with say, “last 2 versions or >1%” are harming vulnerable communities… )
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SailfishOS on the Pine Phone and Pine Phone Pro seems to support VoLTE well.
P.S.: For email one can use K9-Mail in the Android runtime environment (AlienDalvik / “AAS” with a licensed SailfishOS, Waydroid on community ports or an unlicensed, “trial” SailfishOS), a professional, well working email app, which also supports OpenPGP encryption.
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Oh, dear. I do sometimes just read the web with curl. I have a vim plugin that collapses markup. Works well Of course, lynx will do. too
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it is not related to the specs that much but to software that improves the quality (blur etc) and unfortunately when you flash SFOS it is gone, so quality is worse regardless of the specs of the camera.
If you need good pictures, I do not recommend SFOS.
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Thank you, l think l’m starting to understand things better now. I don’t need anything special, just good enough to sell a used item via an advert on an online marketplace.
That said, l do want good performance in low light (= British Summer, Autumn, Winter, Spring, and Summer again etc. etc.). My BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition performs good in low light up to about 30 minutes before sunset on an overcast day or about 15 mins before sunset on a clear day. In fact, l prefer the images taken with the sale item on my dining room table, from early afternoon up to about 30 mins before sunset, the images look better than images taken at high noon.
you are too specific in your own way
Sometimes it works good, but mostly the quality is far away from the one I can get with the Android phone. Best result is always when there is a lot of light.
I don’t use the phone for taking pictures that often though and I can live with it.
It is up to you to decide, I thought I should warn you about.
Going by my requirements in Post #1 & Post #5 in this thread, which phone would you recommend and what would the sacrifice be?
I want a physically decent phone with SFOS because don’t want to buy another phone for approx. 10 years. I believe Android gives free updates for about 5 years so long as the phone is supported. I believe SFOS is 7 years for an officially supported phone, perhaps same for other phones that actually work with SFOS. I believe l can stretch that to 10 years either because SFOS will get more popular by 2030 and thus be able to support phones longer, or l maybe could just sail through the extra 3 years without updates until something goes wrong.
I am trying to decide between these phones (l cannot get a response from Rephone when l ask them if there is a colour-programmable notification LED on the phone, which l need - or at least an artificial LED done via the screen itself):
- Xiaomi Redmi Note 10
- Sony Xperia 10 IV
- Volla Phone X23
My remaining requirements (everything else has fallen away):
- a notification LED
- hopefuilly 5G
- dual SIM
- 4GB-6GB RAM (preferably 6GB)
- decent camera if SFOS is poor compared to Android performance l’m hoping the camera hardware itself could to compensate for SFOS software
- Hopefully l could run operate a card reader terminal in Android compatibility mode
Forget it.
Unless you include Waydroid in that, you are down to official ports only - so you can stop looking at others.
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