Feedback on Xperia 10 V

[247]

Out of curiosity, so why you are here instead of being on an iphone?

[247]

Seems like camera support has been solved, and will be enabled in a future update…

[iolala]

I’ve already explained in a reply on some thread (maybe not this one).
I’m here for the live Twilight Zone experience.
It is quite an experience tbh…

Also, the default keyboard on my iPhone has working autocorrect and word prediction, so there is no challenge in typing proper English on that phone, as opposed to on the default keyboard on Sailfish OS running on the “officially supported” Sony Xperia 10 V, which has none of that. I like a challenge, I guess…

[unmaintained]

@iolala

Also, the default keyboard on my iPhone has working autocorrect and word prediction,

That xt9 thing Jolla is using in SFOS works actually quite okay for me on the 10V.

[fingus]

And Presage Keyboards have also prediction

[Sharks]

@247

Seems like camera support has been solved, and will be enabled in a future update…

Woah, really? I must have missed this! Can anyone point me to the source of this claim?

[CLMA31]

It was confirmed in last community meeting: Community meeting on 9th October 2025 - #18 by rainemak

[widex]

So, we got an info that the camera problem has been solved but another problems are still remaining? e.g. audio routing problems or long boot time. They said that the new blobs are “bad” and They can do anything?
Short said: no a big change for SFOS 5.1 or a preupdate before 5.1 will be relased.

When I’m comparing the messages wrong you can correct me

[CLMA31]

Hard to say what all they have managed to fix. Only camera and battery indicator was mentioned. And that fingerprint scanner probably won’t be implemented anytime soon as it would require reverse engineering some parts. Probably need to wait the specific post regarding Xperia 10 IV/V to know more.

[247]

Well, anyway they said 5.x will have another update prior to releasing 5.1

To me it’s surely to switch the agps to beacondb, but who knows it doesn’t also fix something with the 10 iv / v…

[iolala]

How does a regular user get/activate/install that?

[unmaintained]

I copied the following packages over from my Xperia 10 III

jolla-handwriting-0.1.5-1.3.1.jolla.aarch64.rpm
jolla-xt9-0.5.19-1.5.1.jolla.aarch64.rpm
jolla-xt9-server-0.5.19-1.4.40.jolla.aarch64.rpm
jolla-keyboard-settings-xt9-0.8.28.2-1.6.1.jolla.aarch64.rpm
jolla-xt9-cp-0.2.12-1.3.1.jolla.aarch64.rpm
patterns-sailfish-xt9-0.0.7-1.3.1.jolla.aarch64.rpm

and simply installed them with pkcon install-local

[iolala]

I understand your heart might be in the right place when sharing with me that steaming hack, but wtf?!

You think a regular user can do that?

Is this the third mobile operating system we are fantasizing about, that is supposed to take over Europe and maybe the whole world?
An operating system that doesn’t even have a fully-working keyboard in the year 2025?
Is this how we are going to win all those regular users?

[crun]

@247

Out of curiosity, so why you are here instead of being on an iphone?

Explained here by Prof Lehrer

[unmaintained]

@iolala

You think a regular user can do that?

Absolutely. It’s totally trivial.

Something like

pkcon --only-download ... 

scp *.rpm defaultuser@... 

pkcon install-local *.rpm 

Are you even a functioning adult if you can’t copy a few rpm files from one phone to another?

My mom could do that. She might complain about the superiority of apt over pkcon, though.

[MeeGo-Junky]

I tend to agree to your mom, wise lady

[aosdinva]

Will a be a good idea (or possible) to port fcitx as default keyboard?

I recently noticed that there is even a fcitx port for android (which runs smoothly with app support on SFOS when inputting in android applications). Given that fcitx5 is very well developed and that the input method of SFOS seems to be having quite some trouble (SFOS 5.0 support no CJK till today, and lots of features missing for all languages), will it make sense to use fcitx directly? Or is there any special difficulty? (very different DBUS API?)

For keyboard I still think this might be a better approach. It is what is used in Plasma Mobile, and is a modern keyboard with development effort.

I might try to compile it on my next vacation…….

[iolala]

Lol… Yes, just copy random crap from random places on the internet and run them.
Teaching regular people such a stupid behavior has never caused any security and malware issues in the history of mankind, right?
Surely it must be a brilliant habit to have, right?
Lol…

[unmaintained]

@iolala

just copy random crap from random places on the internet and run them.

I guess if you consider Jolla’s SFOS repositories to be a “random place on the internet”, then there’s hardly anything to discuss. You either have to trust Jolla at some point or give up on them entirely.

[unmaintained]

@iolala

if you teach people to run shit in the terminal, they WILL eventually run malicious shit from bad places

I guess that’s probably the point where we fundamentally disagree.
I believe in educating people to think for themselves, rather than relying on a walled garden of “security through obscurity.” If I wanted that, I’d be using iOS. For me the whole idea behind open source and alternative operating systems is to give everyone the freedom to truly own their devices.