Feedback on Jolla C2

Im linking to my previous post.

I wonder if this is normal that the device is soooo slooooow? Or is it only my unit?
Or maybe it is but those who says otherwise are just in denial.

I just updated mine and it’s got even worse.

Just for comparision I played for two hours with c2 and kinda got used to this glitching and slow response but when I got my trusty 10 III into my hands again I felt like Im using brand new high end device.

the 10 III is so much faster.

So I again took old XA2. Its is slow but stable and still many of the tasks can be done. Again took c2, felt like Im using the phone from a stone age.

I really have hopes in Jolla, but I cant understand why they brining updates and fixes to platform that is almost unusable.

I said I would hold on to the device for some time but Im really considering sending it back for money return and what I will do is buy umcoming xperia 10 V image, buy myself a fatty burger and still have some maoney back resulting in me felling good because Im not hungry and having device that is smashing to bits Jolla fully supported device.

And make a statment. Stop living in denial, c2 is really shitty device.

Feel free to flag this post :slight_smile:

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There are two annoying bugs and only one of them curently has a workaround + I do miss camera ocasionally but other than that C2 for me is very acceptable. Battery life for example is by far the best from all Xperias I had.

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Yeah, it’s like having a fully charged battery in a car with broken engine

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If you need Videorecording now just install Opencamera and you are Steven Spielberg. Works with API 1.0 and 2.0 in Android-App-Support but i see no difference.

Where I can find it?

EDIT: I don’t care enough to use non SFOS one.

DuckDuckGo is your friend:

Press there “Download” and then press “Try To Download Anyway” to get the APK, because it does not recognize Android-OS in the Browser.

I can’t deny you your experience. YMMV. But I certainly stand by my reported experiences now 19 days in with C2 as daily driver. On things I value, it certainly is faster and smoother than the X10iii. The additional things I noticed after 5.0.0.43 upgrade is that the reported enhancements are certainly there. I even realised from complaints I managed to receive that I missed more incoming text messages and calls than expected before the upgrade. On the side of more frequent than before the upgrade are network related reboots, and inbetween, SIM suddenly not active requiring extra reboot. So I am very happy with the progress in being able to communicate more reliably since Tuesday’s release candidate. So neither in denial nor being ignorant if you ask me like that.

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Indeed, it is possible to keep one/some apps running.
Search for ‘partnerspace’ on the forum.
This is an excellent feature IMO.

More exacly
here:

This allows you to swipe left and access the app which will always stay there.
A bit like a second, third… desktop.
One app per screen.
Delicious :yum:

It is for sure not faster than 10 III especially in AAS Enviroment as it really can’t be when hardware is weaker than one in 10 III.

But but but

It was true for all xperias as flashing then gives better results than simply updating, but but but

Not to such extend that I now expirienced - I just flashed my c2 and it is completly different device. In a good way :slight_smile:

I gonna have a long and nice evening now :slight_smile:

It only makes me wonder how Jolla as provider of hardware and software could ship device in such a way that made me feel really dissapointed…

We value different things so we are probably measuring different things as well. Especially if your device changed personality to the better from the recent flash. Happy to hear that.

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maybe I should try to flash mine then?

Hardware quality is 3 years old budget phone.
My main compliant is screen. Adaptive brightness is not working, either too bright or too dark. Screen colour tempureture is too blue.
Another thing is the case. The hole of Charging port is too small so often USB cable isn’t fit enough to charge the device.

Software works okay, but I feel UX is now not up to date while other OSes have been improved a lot in recent years.
But generally speaking UX is quite smooth.
I reckon it’s quite efficient if I take the hardware specs.

Overall the C2 has some shortcomings to use as daily driver.

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I would strongly recomend it

Ok some time now spent with c2.

base os work well, stable and pretty fast after flashing. Didn’t test gsm as I need to have my phone with me at all times and cannot afford to have no internet for android apps while Im outside (work)

So when it comes to AAS it is slow to the point that it is unusable. Im no developer but how could base system which is kinda based on android perform really well while android is so laggy that is even visible while typing on keyboard inputing in android app?

I would like to take c2 for a daily driver spin for some time even if I miss few calls but I need mobile data working for android and, yeah much more improved android itself

SailfishOS isn’t based on Android

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Word I used “kinda” it says it all.
And as I said Im not a developer.

Any other way and and doesnt matter how you look at it there is an android somewhere between the layers.

Coming along, looks like people here are alergic to even the word android and automaticly discards everything other that user is commenting on :stuck_out_tongue:

I am personally not allergic to android, but “kinda based on android” is an obvious technical gibberish. Some basic knowledge how android apps work on Sailfish OS and what is Sailfish OS can be found here: Sailfish OS - Wikipedia

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As @NIS and @Bohdan already pointed out, exactly the above statement is not true.

True statements are:

  • SailfishOS uses device drivers made for Android.
  • In contrast to that “Android App Support (AAS)” (original name: AlienDalvik) is a full AOSP-derived Android-distribution (like e.g. LineageOS, formerly called CyanogenMod) with some additional components (shared clipboard etc.), which runs in an LXC container (exactly like Waydroid / ex-Anbox).
    But AAS is not an integral part of SailfishOS, it is a proprietary, optional add-on for which one needs to buy a license.
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It is not just drivers… Lemme quote myself https://xdaforums.com/t/sailfish-os-for-xiaomi-mi-note-10-4-4-0-72.4523365/post-89859072

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