Community meeting on October 15, 2026

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Please note new time slot

Schedule: Thursday 2026-10-15T16:00:00Z :world_map: :date:

Sailfish OS Community Calendar (ICS format)

Even if you do not participate, topics tend to generate discussion. I want to see discussion happening. Thus, I’m proposing that we’d use 10mins as minimum topic duration. Maximum 6 topics a week. We’ll continue with the extended 90 mins meeting duration.

Jolla to check action points from the previous meeting. We agreed today that we’ll start to follow up action points on each meeting.

Topic proposals for the meeting:

  • Add your name/nick using the template below to suggest a topic.
  • Indicate how much time you’ll need so we can time-box the meeting accordingly.
  • Please be as thorough as you can with your question/topic.
  • If you can’t make the meeting please ask and name a substitute.

It is expected that you show up and present your topic, or name a substitute and make sure they attend in your absence. These IRC meetings are for real time participation and live discussions, otherwise you can post the topic on here and get responses that way.

We need you to be present to clarify details in the topic, and to ensure the discussion is leading to the answers you are looking for! If you do not participate or your question/topic isn’t clear enough it will be postponed. Also: always ask for more time than you anticipate your topic needs!

Please have your topics ready at least 3 days before the meeting so we can prepare good answers. Topics announced afterwards will be postponed to the next meeting.

Template for topic proposal: (post your topic proposals as comments to this forum topic).

  • Name/IRC nick:
  • Topic:
  • Some details about the topic:
  • Approx. time needed:
  • Substitute (optional):

Open Pull Requests:
If you have, or know of, a pull request that’s been open for at least 3 weeks, but which you think deserves attention, please add a comment using the template below and we’ll consider it during the next meeting.

  • Name/IRC nick:
  • Open PR URL:
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  • Name/IRC nick: usbee

  • Topic: Are there plans to support PWAs?

  • Some details about the topic: PWA (Progressive Web Apps) could be a really handy stopgap for missing native apps and also reduce the dependency on Android apps. For now it is only possible to create web shortcuts to the app grid but that’s it.

  • Approx. time needed: 10 min.

  • Substitute (optional): -

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@Usbee Could you clarify what is missing exactly? From what I know PWA is only web technology, so why is it not enough to have the possibility to create a web shortcut? File url is blocked?

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I want to install PWAs the same way as I can do that on desktop Linux with Chrome. Also I would like to open urls with those PWAs rather than opening them in a simple browser window.

I could also mention FirefoxOS as an example because it was possible to install web apps there, even though PWA wasn’t a thing back then. Both that and PWA allows to have webapps as locally hosted apps that can run offline, just like “regular” apps.

With my best knowledge it is not a thing on SFOS as there is no full PWA support, if there is any at all.

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I see, the separate window ID is missing for PWAs when opening web shortcuts from the app launcher.

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PWAs also dont use any of the regular browser ui like adress bar, tabs and so on, and the real useful thing is notifications via service workers. Vivaldi Browser (AAS) for example sends me notifications about new topics and replies from this forum that I subscribed/follow - SFOS browser doesn’t support this.

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That’s HTML5 notifications, which probably aren’t too much work to add now. We don’t need full PWA support for that, which I think would be a substantial amount more work.

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Oh, okay. On the other hand several web apps / PWAs need online access, will probably cache most stuff tgey need - but don’t need browser ui. So perhaps an option to hide browser ui would be a cool use case for that.

Nevertheless I don’t really understand why websites that worked earlier don’t work anymore now. Two examples:

Worked on 5.2.x on the new Jolla Phone (but not on 5.1 or earlier), now stopped with 5.2.0.17 update.

Stopped working with 5.2.0.17 update too, worked before at least on all 5.x versions…

Edit: I can’t even log-in into this forum with stock browser… :frowning:

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  • Name/IRC nick: legacychimera247

  • Topic: Solving the SMS receiving problem

  • Some details about the topic: Some weeks ago my local record shop wrote me an sms to notify me about a very limited release, i didn’t see that, but casually i was going in there for other things so i could order the record in time. The reason why i didn’t see the message is that my Jolla Phone 2 didn’t receive any message. It’s not a JP2 problem, it’s a Sailfish one cause i’ve been plagued with this bug since forever on my XA2 and i sadly see situation is not changed on newer releases of Sailfish. Will this ever be solved?i lost count of lost messages through the years due to this bug, and it would be nice to see it solved, since i consider sms the most basic functionality of a phone…

  • Approx. time needed: 5 min.

  • Substitute (optional): Probably none, and i don’t know if i can make it to the meeting, so if appropriate you could just move this to general, but an answer is needed, as i’m tired of losing messages due to this (and hear people telling me to install whatsapp not to lose any more message)

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Name/IRC nick: Cryx

Topic: Visibility of Jolla/Sailfish OS

Some details about the topic:

See linked topic - mainly I want to point Jolla (and the community) to probably gain a better visibility…

Approx. time needed: 5 miinutes

Substitute (optional): none, I also won’t make it into the meeting that day - but primary the topic is meant for awareness and a short answer (especially as competitors are already listed there… :wink: )

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  1. Name/IRC nick: CLMA31
  2. Topic: Reason OP-mobiili & S-pankki has stopped working
  3. Some details about the topic: Newest versions of OP-mobiili and S-pankki has stopped working. I would guess that some of Jolla employees is affected by this as well. As both still work with android forks like e/OS reason probably isn’t google integrity api, but some other shield that detects it is running in emulator. Unfortunately I don’t have know how to collect relevant logs or understand what is the problem so I would be interested to hear if Jolla employees have been able to pin point the root problem yet? And if so, is this AAS specific problem or something else? Depends of answers to first two question, but in case someone in Jolla looked in to this, does it seem possible to fix this problem? We aren’t yet in dire situation as old versions work, but sooner or later they stop of working…
  4. Approx. time needed: 10min
  5. Substitute (optional): None, I try to be present
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  • Name/IRC nick: fingus
  • Topic: The Jolla Ringtone Project: The Missing Pieces—The Musician(s) Behind It and the future
  • Some details about the topic:
    We’d like to learn more about the Jolla Ringtone Project and its fantastic outcome. The presentation at the Jolla Phone Day 1 event was impressive, but one question remained unanswered—and the YouTube Shorts doesn’t address it in a satisfactory way enough. Why was this particular musician (and band?) chosen? Maybe you could tell us this story in an entertaining way. I think this is an important question because the ringtones for the four different TOH back covers play a significant role in shaping the identity of the new Jolla Phone. Perhaps there’s still some information about it that hasn’t been shared yet.
    In the future, can we expect more TOH back colors and new ringtones from this fantastic musician/band?
  • Approx. time needed: 5 min
  • Substitute (optional): Anyone else who’s interested
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cant attend, but

Name/IRC nick: teleshoes
Topic: timeline for fix for GPS works-once-only in AAS on JP2
Some details about the topic: so the bug is: it seems that GPS doesn’t work in any apps that have location sharing permission with Allow only while using the app (RaceJoy) instead of Allow all the time (GMaps). this might be a coincidence. the broken apps get a gps fix at startup, but then wont update unless i open GMaps and switch back (and then it gets one more fix).

but my QUESTION is: is this known, is it fixable, is it perhaps fixed, and will it be deployed before oct17th when my race is :slight_smile: ?

Approx. time needed: 0-2min

note: this is likely the same bug: GPS in AppSupport works only once

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I’m probably late for tomorrow’s meeting, but posting the topic here anyway at least for the next one:

  1. Name/IRC nick: Orologiaio
  2. Topic: High CPU usage by AAS system_server process
  3. Some details about the topic: There’s an abnormally high cpu usage by the AAS system_server process when AAS is running (see the bug report). I was not the one to create the report, but I started noticing this as the cause for the occasional battery drain I was seeing with Finlayson version .18, and the issue persists also with the .20 upgrade. Is the Jolla team aware of this? How can the community help to troubleshoot the issue and find a fix?
  4. Approx. time needed: 5 min.
  5. Substitute (optional): I should be able to attend the meeting.
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Name/IRC nick: sanginteret

Topic: Harbour: may a store app dlopen the system libavcodec (optional, no Requires) for H.264/AAC playback?
Some details about the topic:
I am preparing a new web browser for the Jolla Store. It bundles its own FFmpeg (VP9, AV1, Opus), built without H.264.

For H.264 and AAC i would like to use the system’s libavcodec.so.59. It is already required by gstreamer1.0-libav and thumbnaild, so it is part of every SFOS 5 install. The app would load it with dlopen at runtime: no RPM Requires, no linking. If the library is missing, H.264 is simply reported as unsupported to web pages.

Hardware decoding through droidmedia / gst-droid is not available to Harbour apps (correct me if I am wrong), and QtMultimedia cannot take Media Source Extensions streams (YouTube etc.), so the system libavcodec is the only way we see to play H.264 in the store version.

Questions:

  1. Would Harbour QA accept an optional dlopen of the system libavcodec?
  2. If not, could libavcodec / libavutil be added to allowed_libraries.conf? They have a versioned API/ABI (soname per major version).
  3. Is there any supported path for hardware video decoding (droidmedia / gst-droid) for Harbour apps, now or planned?
    Approx. time needed: 10 minutes
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The “High CPU usage by AAS system_server process” topic we took in for this meeting even though it arrived late as well. Let’s cover this libavcodec topic in the next meeting.

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Did you check this thread: Not receiving SMS from some senders ? Is your problem the same (concerning multipart SMS), or different?

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Minutes: #sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- October 15, 2026
Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2026/sailfishos-meeting.2026-10-15-16.00.txt
Log: #sailfishos-meeting log

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