About redesigning incoming call experience in 3.4.0

I have two devices, an XA2 and an XA2+. I love bigger screens, but the last one has a broken card slot. The XA2 is on Torronsuo, the Plus is updated to Pallas-Yllastunturi. When switching sim I can compare the interface of incoming calls. I am willing to change but concerning the calls, the change is not practical. I hold my phone in the left hand, so my thumb is on the left around the side of the device and my fingers are around the right side. Which means that I always have to swipe towards my thumb or fingers. And this is why I miss calls: thumb or fingers stop the swiping and I do not succeed in swiping far enough in order to answer the call.
The contemporary gesture is hybrid. Better use a button only, or use a pulley menu.

But that change occurred five years ago! It’s been the way it is now for more than twice as long as the way it was before!

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No, five years ago the swipe-down-to-close gesture was made optional and disabled by default (it could be enabled in preferences). It was with 3.0 IIRC that it was moved to the edges.

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You’re right, my bad!

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Even without proper translation I would highly appreciate to have the beloved behavior available again :innocent:

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Jolla team, I really tried changing my sim and exercising the new interface, but it still doesn’t work for me.

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Dear all,
just wanted to add one experience:
on 3.4, just before 4.0 update i would have this cool bug:

  • incomming call.
  • i swipe to accept
  • phone shows login screen
  • have to login
  • then can accept the call

just remove the ugly big green box during the call accept swipe and i’m fine
am still below 50 and able to adapt :smiley:

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Here is finally the patch :slight_smile: for now still with some forced english texts. And sorry for the delay.
https://coderus.openrepos.net/pm2/project/return-old-incoming-call-screen

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Very late 2 cents. I love the empirical testing that you’ve done, and the design decision makes sense on a macro level. Individual preferences don’t live on a macro level, and I’d prefer to have the possibility to chose myself which option I prefer.

My problem with the new design is probably because I got used to the old way of doing it. I feel the new way is inconsistent with other actions across different activities (e.g. swipe up/down still exists for alarm, and swiping left for accessing the homepage from pretty much any other place).

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Last week I rebooted my XA2 for the xth time. Each time I have to do the instruction, still with pulley menu, very easy. The phone hives a little push when scrolling up or down.
Inkeep my XA2 in Torronsuo because I cannot adapt to the new swiping when picking up a call. Overall the UI becomes more hybrid now, which is a bit chaotic. I also have an XA2plus that has a broken card slot. This has been updated to Koli. I use ot at home only. I really hope that Jolla will give us the option to choose for the pulley menu when answering a call.

I updated my patch to work on SailfishOS 4.
https://coderus.openrepos.net/pm2/project/return-old-incoming-call-screen

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hullo @Kuba77 - finally I tried your patch, on all new 4.1.0.23 Kvarken, via Terminal as recommended. No success yet. I’ll try again later this day, could be a mistake been done.

Hello, I am on 4.0.1.48 now so I can’t confirm if my patch works on 4.1.0.23.

thank you - so I’ll wait :wink:

it seems Kvarken 4.1.0.23 is XA2 specific or something…
pkcon update messages no packages require updating to newer versions. So that seems the latest version I can get on my hardware.

sorry: of course 4.1.0.23 is a more recent version than 4.0.1.48

Sailfish OS update 4.1.0 was rolled out to the early access subscribers last week. It will be released to all users in the next 1-2 weeks (that is the plan).

Bluetooth switch is not working since 4.0.1.48 and may be earlier (see here). Are you planing to address this issue?

No, there are no pushes anymore, it’s just swiping. The lack of pushes is one of the reasons that I miss calls. The swioing gesture is too vague.

I’m not sure if it is only behavior of my Sailfish XA2, however I didn’t change /etc/mce. But: When my phone sleeping (display is off) I have call and I didn’t answer this call, LED starts blinking after this call ended. Which is normal and good. Then I wake up phone, look who was calling in events view and switch phone sleeping back (switch display off). The LED stopped blinking / lighting. Which is also OK. But when again (after few minutes) rings SAME number and again I don’t answer call, the LED will not start blinking anymore. Which is weird - because I don’t have any notification about second call. What is logic behind this?

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This might be a bug you encountered. Post it to #bug-reports so it gets the right attention

After the time passed since the release I still am not used to this new way of answering. I constantly miss calls, because when I try to swipe the home screen opens. I have to navigate back some how and it shows “call in progress”, then I have to swipe that, swipe again to answer (fingers crossed I have the right swipe) and I have the call active.

I understand the design will not change, though is there something that can be done here to improve the calling answer behaviour?

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