3.5mm JACK on new Jolla Phone

The first other half option needs to be the head phone jack along with both fm and am radio options.. the other half should be full of radios like HAM digital scanner tech and a head phone jack and antenna booster for radio and cellular

7 Likes

Not something I have value for, but I hear a small receiver is super cheap, small. …I would rather have like LoRa (or nonproprietary long-range alternative) tho if I had to pick one extra radio :slight_smile:

2 Likes

100% agree on the fragility of the one USB-C port to do it all and it being impractical to use.

Let the BT people have their BT headphones while they enjoy it but 3,5mm jack is a feature that stands on its own and has been complimentary to BT for 2 decades and helps with the longevity of the device.

This time for me no purchase of the Jolla 2 despite being a loyal Jolla phone user.

The absence of the 3,5mm + decent analogue output quality such as in the Xperia X (not the 10 III, Jolla 1, or XA2 Ultra) makes me refrain from purchasing the Jolla 2 based on hardware check list, but I have to admit there are a few policy choices and priorities in software development that make me decide time to stop ā€œwaitingā€ and wanting.

Connector wear concern and constant disconnects due to large USB parts are pushing people to BT ā€œconvenienceā€. Gone are the days that HTC and Nokia offered DAC centric musical hardware.

Living an active life while using headphones + dongle I could easily wear out an iPhone lightning connector in about a year: can’t listen to audio and to charge I need to leave it flat and stable or the connection becomes intermittent.
With the same number of inserts / day in the 3,5mm jack I have no issue. Of course one need to choose a stable fitting and well rubber seated gold plated 3,5mm connector and not refrain to put some contact grease now and then. It helps when the phone cover acts as a stabilizing factor to the 3,5mm jack when inserted.
The USB-C connector or lightning for that matter having a large part sticking out is a major design flaw. Then take into account contact surface wear or cheap and rough edged contacts of all kind of devices.

Charging while listening over the same USB-C? It is important to have. When using the old device as an internet radio interface coupled to 50+ year old HiFi for example.

To be fair, on the XA 2 Ultra I am able to listen to a headphone on an Apple USB-C to 3,5mm dongle all while charging the battery by using a relatively cheap do-it-all HUB ..But the sound volume of the dongle is always lower.

Yes I know, Bluetooth.
I was the first to use BT headphones (by Philips) of everyone I know and when the iPhone came into existance I was checking for BT functionality and was surprised and disapointed that it couldn’t offer the same convenience as the Nokia E52 I was using for hands free / wireless talking and music listening at the time. Since then I have ditched the technology for various reasons, one being the pile of junk I have left behind , the other being the connection stress, the other being I no longer ā€œneedā€ to receive hours of phone calls hands & cable free.
I was the first of everyone I know to use a BT speaker before any teenager, with NFC to connect even, , the first to add BT dongles to most audio devices as to make them wireless streaming capable. Still do it now and then and I combine with 3,5mm jack , even FM radio broadcast?

Does it hurt your brain or wallet too much to have all the Swiss Army knive options?

5 Likes

If you can make radiation from bluetooth headsets audible it is only ā€œtinfoilhatteryā€? These things broadcast constantly, and not only audio signals.

Also: I’m of a generation that likes to speak to others but not through technology of their headphones, that likes to be heard by ears not by technology, call me what you like, but don’t play the I-am-right-dude. If I am told by someone wearing BT headphones that they can hear me I give them a few seconds speech on politeness. Yet another factor nobody takes into consideration anymore.

4 Likes

Poor people with hearing aids having to listen to your speech about not using technology when you’re speaking with them.

On the other hand, when someone starts giving me random speeches, that’s exactly the right time to quickly turn on some music in my earphones so I don’t have to listen to people being condescending.

… Or you could plug the earphones in the 3.5mm plug - same effect, no specific need for wireless connection :winking_face_with_tongue:

3 Likes

I was surprised to see in GSM arena website that also current phones beyond Sony still offer a headphone jack, e.g. RedMagic 11S Pro

And while you’re at it, when you add a 3.5 mm jack to TOH, consider adding a second one for two reasons:

  • To have a spare
  • So two people can listen in noisy environments (e.g. Backseat of car watching a film together..etc)
5 Likes

And a serial port just in case someone loves ro plug in his trusted old vt420.

You kid but a phone with a serial port would be amazing. Had one of these bad boys back in uni for interfacing with all manner of IC programmers. The port is slimmer than your average 3.5mm too.

Though I must say, it’s ridiculous to axe the one audio output port that Just Worksā„¢ in favor of multiple solutions that either barely work on a good day or come with 12 different caveat emptors. I will be getting a Qudelix 5K to finally give my ER4SRs the amp they deserve, but I’m still salty about the lack of a 3.5mm port, which I currently use constantly.

2 Likes

With my current phone I’ve actively used the 3.5mm port for music on walks. It will be a shame to not have it in my next phone but not the end of the world. I have a MP3 player somewhere (I misplaced it a few months back) that I guess I can use just as well.

1 Like

Crazy fact: the PinePhone Pro I am writing this on has a serial port over its 3.5mm jack (a hardware DIP switch controls wether the jack connects to the audio mixer or the Rochchip SoC’s serial port), by default it’s used for debugging, but is a standard serial port and could be used for anything.

8 Likes

I sometimes need to plug my phone into other audio gear. That means either XLR jacks, 6mm or 3.5 mm jacks. Professional audio gear does not do bluetooth except as an output. And it’s frowned upon because it introduces interference.

10 Likes

While understand the usability of the old 3.5 mm jack, we live in a world where the 3.5 mm jack takes too much real estate on a slab phone. Even the USB-C port almost takes up too much space, just look at iPhone Air how they barely managed to fit the USB-C port.

For those who want a 3.5 mm jack, your future with such port (regardless of what phone you use) is using a USB-C to 3.5 mm dongle or a Bluetooth to 3.5 mm jack device. That’s just how it is and the 3.5 mm isn’t coming back. Look at it as a positive angle, now you can have any port instead, like USB-C to XLR.

1 Like

… which you can easily solder together yourself, if you want, and still be able to provide power to your phone while using your beloved wired headset: USB-C - Wikipedia

if manufacturers decided to not use that as an excuse and used the empty space the have in their phones, we would have jacks. but instead we’re forced to buy even more plastic waste. Sony are still shipping phones with headphone jacks and microSD card slots.

that’s such a sorry excuse for a phone. and it’s still thick at the top where all the electronics are, it’s just stupid.

there’s no justification on the removal of the headphone jack other than more profits for the multi-million and billion dollar corporations :slight_smile:

9 Likes

No, you cannot. You need a DAC. Caveat emptor.

Well, they just need to stay with revision 2.3 of the USB Type‑CĀ® Cable and Connector Specification then, where still no external DAC is needed. Whether that’s feasible or future-proof is an entirely different question, but as long as it brings the number of complaining people down…

/ducksandruns/ :grin:

1 Like

Liquid Corrosion Mitigation Mode

That’s the name of my Sisters of Mercy cover band!

5 Likes

hey now, hey now now, sing …

That was a nice one! You made me smile