I loved my first Jolla, but my excitement for the new product vanished when I realized it has no 3.5mm headphone jack. With The Other Half this could be solved, I assume. Hope?
But voting seems to be closed already?
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There were tens of wishes of 3.5 in posts so …
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I might sound pessimistic, but I think Jolla had a good opportunity with TOH during the J1 era and missed it. Now I’m hoping for a TOH that makes the J2 more water-resistant, for example IP65 or higher.
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Just out of curiosity, why is that 3,5 plug so important to some? After all, bluetooth headphones have been in the market for ages now.
I’m no HiFi-guy so is it a sound quality thing or such? Or is it some extra privacy thing not using bluetooth?
Help me understand.
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Its akso not a problem to use a usb c converter
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Other than rare instances I guess a “mindset” thing.
I can’t relate personally since I’m using exclusively wireless for a decade now. You can find some starting literally from 2€ so price is no longer an issue.
Also since small type c adapters exists where you can set and forget, I don’t see an issue for majority that has no special use case for the phone.
For me these are the reasons why I would like a 3.5 mm audio jack:
- A Bluetooth headset requires a battery, another piece that will fail in the worst moment.
(Yes, I am that guy who insists on using wired keyboards, mice and office headsets.) - I have a series of excellent (and fairly expensive) wired earphones/headphones that I want to continue using. No battery means they still work after 10 years.
- I prefer minimum exposure to artificial electromagnetic radiation, a Bluetooth headset adds more.
- Adapters from USB to 3.5 audio seem to be either bulky, overpriced or the sound is lousy. Let me know if you can recommend a good one from your own experience!
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All the more reason to use a higher-power USB-C adapter. Bluetooth thingamajigs for this also exists.
Really ice IEMs disconnect at the case and go well with stuff like FiiO UTWS series.
This tinfoilhattery has been debunked so many times.
In my experience that are always better i.e. can deliver more power, not for pure volume, but for fidelity to the signal. That also tend to cost €/$ 10 - which is arguably a good margin, but also a very fair price. The one i have is no longer sold - but most of them should contain the same thing.
I too think a 3.5mm is a nice addition, but let’s be honest with our arguments.
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might as well crosspost my reply from a different thread:
idk, all this pressure to switch is weird. I don’t see why everyone suddenly needs to switch to a more expensive, complicated, failure-prone design that provides no improvements in sound quality (and in fact drawbacks in microphone sound quality, if DankPods is to be believed).
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For me, jack is simplicity, durability, less e-waste.
But if an USB adapter works, I’m ok with that.
My car has a jack.
My home amplifier has a jack.
Quality
I compared wired connection against BT on a Sony SRS-XG300 with my SFOS XA2. I heard a difference, due to, I suppose compression. That could perhaps be adjusted, I’m ignorant in this field.
Privacy.
Also ignorant here, but let’s say I’m using BT into the city, busses..:
As every BT chip has an unique MAC address, it is uniquely identified,
As they will regularly broadcast their addresses,
Will their (hence my) presence be reported by Android and Iphones constantly, as all BT devices around?
Does it work like this?
edit: @moderators, as this jack/BT discussion is appreciated and often comes back, should we split the topic into a dedicated “jack veneration thread”? 
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What i found sofar, wired usb-c in ear headphones from Google, not too expansive, it was like 29€ and with good sound. But this is not adapter.
BTW. It is not enough to have simple wiring adapter from USB-C to 3,5mm jack. It needs to be one with incl. DAQ inside
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Completely with you 
Oh, yes, true, a good DAC is needed.
Which could be an advantage over an in-phone jack.
An onboard jack implies the use on an internal DAC,
Which implies the next endless thread “Which DAC into the J2?” 
(warmly joking about ourselves, no sarcasm here)
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PCM1704 or bust.
Fiio KA11 is a nice USB-C DAC that is inexpansive with good sound, works nicely with my Sennheiser headphones and works also with SFOS and provides a good volume.
I prefer also wired headphones via this USB DAC altough I also have a high quality Sennheiser Momentum 4 with Bluetooth…
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I have no strong opinion either way, but afaics - and please prove me wrong if so:
- The extremely good price/quality ratio and lifetime warranty of those small KOSS headphones that still only come with a 3.5mm plug
- Similar for other quality headphones that simply do not break as fast as new technologies emerge
- Bluetooth requires re-encoding the audio one more time, diminishing quality
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usb-c to 3.5mm adapters are not well supported on sailfish os, in phone calls they just don’t work. but for android apps they worked, like for whatsapp, as in whatsapp calls. that was on xperia 10 ii or xperia xz2 compact. some phones don’t even have support for that, like the xperia 10 iii doesn’t even support this adapter on sailfish os, audio just isn’t routed through the dac. with the c2, xperia 10v or f(x) tec 1 pro x i didn’t even try a dac.
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I tend to get suspicious when I read “just asking questions” and “help me understand” and the like, but why not . . .
Old car with “Aux” jack. Older car with cassette adapter with 3.5mm cable sticking out of the slot. Even older car with cassette adapter with 3.5mm cable sticking out from inside of a cassette to 8-track adapter plugged into the radio/8-track player.
“Why mess with success,” as they say? I guess one could argue that no success is so successful that you shouldn’t mess with it and just get some new dongles and chargers and what-not, but I won’t. At least nobody’s stealing your aux cable our of your '92 Mustang convertible.
No car? Well, maybe you’ve got a nice audio interface you’d like to feed your phone output into. You’ve already got your 3.5mm plug to two 1/4" phone plugs or two XLRs. Appropriate jack on the phone and you’re home free. Why buy even more stuff when you’re still paying off all that old Firewire gear 10 years later, right?
Or maybe just my stupid Monoprice headphones with Bluetooth and an audio jack, except that battery died and it’s not replaceable and throwing it in the trash at night (American e-waste disposal) just kinda torques your lug nuts the wrong way (as the kids said in my day).
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Even more: “to mess with success” is success.
Actually, transporting an electrical signal from A to B trough a piece of copper is the most simple, reliable, affordable, durable, clean, and most of all, direct way.
And bonus, with a Jack into my phone, I’m sure I’ll get a way to find it
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Doesn’t mean they’re any good, or not overpriced compared to wired variant.
sound quality and price to performance ratio. No bluetooth microphone is good for example but any basic wired headphones have better mic than bt ones
Oh and the fact that bt earbuds/headphones are manufactured e-waste because once battery goes the entire thing goes. While wired IEMs/headphones can last decades
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