Mine are ‘original’ but for the plug. they are very quiet unless I compensate with a custom amplifier. It’s just plates of bakelite.
Ok, who knows 
I’ve ordered some ‘foo’ and @Mister_Magister 's recommendation of the apple dongle. Curious. And @piggz is slouching on the volla ports (ducks’n’runs).
I didn’t put them on the scope, but the more robust ‘Stouchi’ (on sale at half price of the apple < 5 euro!) is a bit louder and has a proper braided cable. But both, if you screw about with udev and pactl work. Test listening Beefus B, Sushi Cat album.
“Just use bluetooth” in the new phone, rather behoves them to finally update pulseaudio (and bluez?), so that something better than the very oldest and worst quality codec (SBC) is supported.
The AptX LL codec addresses this, as does the LE Audio LC3 codec. Hypothetically. I’m not sure what the use case in a phone (especially SFOS) is. Perhaps gaming?
Cheaper doesn’t mean sounds as good
Ah, but it does sound as good I’ll have to do some tests with recordings of my own. Maybe ride cymbals or the Rhodes. Then I can say something about fidelity. Usually that ‘Stouchi’ costs just as much as the apple. It was a ‘deal’.
Although I’m not actively using it, I built a small app which responds to OSC commands and plays synth sounds (using sdl). That was timing sensitive.
Hadn’t thought of it that way, but that’s actually a pretty good argument: if you take something away, you need to replace it with something mostly equivalent. Like returning your friend’s car you borrowed with the gas tank filled back up, or editing a classmate’s school paper by replacing your edit with at least as many words as you’d delete.
Personally I prefer the 3.5mm Aux just because it simply works.
You dont need to setup anything, just plug and play and it instantly works.
Needing to connect everywhere with bluetooth just invites misery when the automation inevitably lets you down, one way or the other, and you need to hassle in situations where the 3.5mm would just work.
You dont need to buy a USB-C converter or a spesific converter if you want to charge at the same time.
i have this one and when the charger is connected the soundcard disappear and phone ask for USB mode (works as expected on android)
If that’s true that sounds like bug in usb-moded and should be, first verified on other phones, and if its generic sailfish issue, reported to jolla (buy them the thingimajig so they can fix it but they probably won’t)
I have the C2 and every Bluetooth headset I own worked fine with the Jolla 1 or the XA2. With the C2 every single one disconnects randomly. And I would also not prefer another USB-to-Audio adapter. Then I have to choose between charging and listening. And how knows if the adapter is working then..
Another battery to think of, another wireless chip being active on the phone and draining more power, something else to configure. Not that bluetooth is the most secure protocol, but I don’t think about that when using it.
As opposed to 3.5 plug - just works when you need it, no batteries, no configuration.
To be fair C2 ( and the 10 before that ) works fine with my Sena, where I actually need it to be wireless.
To be honest, I was exactly the same as you—it was more than 7 years ago. Buy yourself an Apple dongle for 10 euros. You’ll get a very good DAC, much better than the shitty one on the SoC. Please stop complaining like a 5-year-old and adapt. My Bluetooth headphones can connect via Bluetooth, 3.5mm jack, or USB-C. If you don’t want to invest a few euros in good headphones, just buy a cheap dongle and stop forcing the world to adapt to you. I don’t mean to offend you, but honestly, you sound a bit pathetic.
That’s a bit harsh don’t you think?
Yes what you are saying is right, but some people have very specific needs and others don’t want to adapt to anything new.
I’m not one of them but I would argue, not judge or call names.
That aside, this is what the TOH is all about. Creating legacy, weird, niche stuff that modern phones don’t have.
Someone asked why some people prefer 3.5mm jack over bluetooth, I’m answering - not complaining.
Sure, I’ll buy an adapter - the OS matters more to me than the port.
Also wouldn’t an Apple dongle be lightning and not usable on a non-apple phone ?
That’s unnecessarily rude . . . and plonk.
I guess I was once part of the 3.5 mm Jack crowd. But I am not really an audiophile. I simply got USB headphones. While a headphone jack would allow listening to stuff while charging this is nothing I would really need.
So that is why I don’t really miss it anymore even though I hate the idea of cable less ear phones, with battery management and how easily you can lose them.
But then, adding a headphone jack should be doable with a TIH project I would think.
topping off a post that boils down to “stop wanting things to be different than they are” with “you sound a bit pathetic” feels incredibly out-of-touch. nobody is forcing anyone to do anything, calm down.
complaining about some folks having a niche desire, while yourself being on a forum for a very niche thing, seems kind of silly and counterproductive.
I don’t think there is much (or any) Apple products that have anything else but type C. Meaning from what they sell.
This would be true if Jolla put the audio connections for it on the pcb.
If they assume that it will be done through the USB pins, it won’t happen. It will be too expensive in tiny volume, and will be another thing that is dependent on OS support that doesn’t exist or is unreliable. Just using an Apple adaptor would be better.
There are 3.5mm jacks designed with spring tabs, to be pressed onto pcb pads, not soldered. This would be ideal: put the pads on the phone pcb. TOH just mechanically supports the connector and provides the extra thickness for it.