Will bluetooth ever work in Aliendalvik?

There’s an old iPhone with an activated DHL app somewhere in the drawer for the day they put one of my parcels into one of that BT-operated parcel lockers. Happened exactly once so far.

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Kinda solidifies my point; no one should have to resort to or be forced to rely on “apps” if all devices already share the protocols and the browser.
Your devices all have Bluetooth, WiFi and an HTML5 capable browser; so you had all the required hardware and software to open the locker; yet you still couldn’t.

I’m not against apps per say, they have a function, but a browser should be a required fallback solution for platforms which are not Android and iOS to interface with hardware like that.

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You are 100% correct. I have been using these devices since N900 for a reason and there has always been some workaround to be able do what you need, but now things have changed and Bluetooth is something that I need.

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Or maybe one day they add keyboard to their lockers. In Czech republic company Zásilkovna (Packeta) had also only BT-operated parcel boxes but this year it changed, they start to add keyboard to their parcel boxes so now can be used code from SMS :slight_smile:

Yes of course I would prefer that. But I had 6 days to collect my parcel.

Just the opposite in Germany. DHL seems to move towards boxes without display, keyboard, and code scanner. Just bluetooth.

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Customers complained to Zásilkovna that BT connection isn’t sometimes reliable, is needed smartphone, too complicated for seniors etc. Boxes other companies (Alzabox, Rohlik point etc.) have normally box with display+keyboard so people are used to boxes with display+keyboard and sometimes when they don’t have time are share code with their partner or children to pick the parcel from box. And in this style Zásilkovna now present it (able to share code with partner, easier for seniors)

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there’s only one response to that: complain, complain, complain

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… and urge DHL to provide a native SFOS app

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for me it suffices if they provide only those stations with a barcode scanner
Edit: I also don’t get why I need an app for a service that worked for 100 years without the use of any computer

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True (and I fully agree). However, having DHL providing a native SFOS app would be great (although I do not expect that this happens under the given circumstances)

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The argument with new customers is irrelevant atm. Jolla need BUSINESS customers. Small Normalo-user from the street will never be Jolla customers, because the dont need it. They are happy with iphone and android.
But Jolla can be a small niche alternative for people who are Linux- and IT affine, who value freedom and privacy. And Jolla need business cases to survive. To sell SailfishOS licences for 25,- EUR can be only additional business model.

Jolla can impliment blutooth in Alien Dalvik only in one condition:
One business customer will pay for the development or if there will be a business case, where the business customer say: “I will buy SailfishOS for my product/hardware, when Bluetooth will work in Android”.

In this case Jolla will implement it and we, as community can profit from it.
Development cost money. Somebody need to pay for it.

But it will not happen to serve potential “new” customers who don’t buy Jolla because no Bluetooth or no NFC in Alien Dalvik.

SailfishOS is not and will never be a third Eco-System like IOS/Android. But it is and it will be a small alternative for those who care.
Well small business and middle-class business brings money too. There are thousands of small and middle-class companies who can live from a niche market. No need to try get a piece of cake from Apple or Google. Jolla will get a piece of another cake :slight_smile:

i would say: If a person permanently needs a second phone with him to survive (e.g. pay public transport tickets, shopping, parking lots), because this apps (or the single point of failure like BankID app) is not running without bluetooth support, than SailfishOS becomes just obsolete.

And of course this person should blame the institutions for that, but nevertheless he needs a working solution until the government or a world company is reacting on his inquiry.

And this could be a real differentiation for sailfish also regarding other real foss phones with postmarketos or other os with e.g. plasma mobile. If I see the current status of plasma mobile (currently using it on my tablet) with waydroid, than the question of Sailfishs future is in my mind immediatly. And don’t get me wrong, I’m a supporter from day 1 with 4+ licenses in my family.

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