Where to go after Sailfish?

[robang74]

@robang74

The porting of getevent Android command to Linux seems promising in order to decode that data without further investigation. This casts the picture of an initial architecture:

• a yamuid which init the drm framebuffer and listen for receiving a command
• a toucheventd which init the touch screen and listen for event add them in a queue
• a punktd which set the initial display and elaborate the events in the queue

The first PoC would not be a phone but a simple calculator: 1 * 3 = 3, 4 + 2 = 6, etc.

Are you sure that nobody wants partecipate to this quest?

[WT.Sane]

@Fellfrosch

Why speculating. I’m not sitting on a boat with too less life vests. So I have plenty of time to decide where to go. At the moment Jolla is still alive, even so they are struggling, so why should I leave at the moment.

You are so right. All that speculation leads to nothing but premature decisions. Decisions must be taken fast but not early.

[robang74]

@WT.Sane

All that speculation leads to nothing but premature decisions.

Speculations can lead anywhere including beautiful places, if you know how do manage them.

@WT.Sane

Decisions must be taken fast but not early.

Correct, timing is essential.

However, to take a decision fast we need to evaluate the alternative and the available options otherwise the fast decision cannot happen fast or it is a blind jump. Usually, the second.

Conclusion

Speculations about where to go after SailFish OS can be interesting because it means that people who are speculating realized that SFOS is not the way whatever Jolla does.

Speculations about where to go after Jolla Oy are useless because they missed the main point above: SailFish OS is not the answer whatever is the question.

Not for me, at least - not any release I saw up to this moment, at least because I use UNIX systems as end-user and as developer and I know what I am expecting from a such a systems and what I am not going to accept.

[voidanix]

Already jumped ship a while ago, sadly.

Although I had my reasons to do so, deep down I still hope that SFOS will fix itself, as I am genuinely tired of seeing mono/duopolies in the tech space.

@lkraav

Fortunately for daily driver, albeit relatively slow and sluggish UX in many things, this X10 II is able to keep me on the road fairly well. And many things in SFOS are executed well.

Absolutely this, but with a Snapdragon 855; after I tried Android again almost 2 years later and saw just how responsive the system could be, my mind was seriously confused.

[LSolrac]

Personally, I see myself returning to Ubuntu Touch. otherwise I might try Mobian or Droidian

[Ride92]

Im on the long road to try out maemo leste as daily (I know Im crazy) but there are two main problems:

1. Cant log on maemo forum as I stopped using it a while ago and also cant create new account as activation emails doesnt come anymore.

2. Even greater problem as I cant find device Im looking for (XT894). I got some n900s lying around but really I would like something snappier while retaining hardware keyboard.

[vlagged]

Looks like there’s pinephone support too PinePhone - Maemo Leste Wiki

[robang74]

@robang74

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When a post of mine, like this, is hidden - does it mean that you managed to complete this task or just someone in the forum is still suffering for the loss of their dignity? Just to know…

[ohnonot]

I wonder if anybody is actually using Maemo Leste as their daily driver, i.e. telephony, mobile broadband and messsaging working reliably? And reasonable battery life?

Ubuntu Touch works afair, but what about Mobian, same questions as above?

And on which device?

[gfwp]

If it’s comnig from the WEF is nothing better than Android or iOS. Sorry

[gfwp]

Which hardware? Because the biggest problem is to find hardware…

[gfwp]

Anyway it looks like Volla has also big problems…

Gigaset-Insolvenz - Auswirkungen auf Volla?

[LSolrac]

Personally, I’d go with Fairphone 5 or 4 (whichever is available in the US), I might even try help porting efforts if need be.
However, if you want a device that works with UT, Pixel 3a and the Gigaset phones seem to work mighty fine – otherwise, check here devices.ubuntu-touch.io/

[LSolrac]

As someone who ported UT to a Samsung Galaxy S9+ (Pre Xenial, I need to get back into it, but lack of VoLTE hurts) I can say that while I was testing, Telephony worked as you’d expect, no VoLTE On the Samsung Device, but that’s samsung shenanigans, mobile broadband worked fine, but make sure you got the APN settings right, if it’s not automatically set. Messaging worked, but If I remember correctly, file sharing was a bit limited.

Edit:
Its more about what device has most features working, which you can check here devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ – and for your uses

[gfwp]

Fairphone is interesting. I would be a bit pissed of by paying some 100$ more for the e/OS version, but anyway, freedom and privacy have no price. Is the basic model locked with Android? Who knows. Volla with multiboot sounds really sexy, too. Today their web shop is back online. Pixel 3a models are only available as aftermarket. It’s harder and harder to find new hardware. The global dictatorship advances.

[LSolrac]

@gfwp

Fairphone is interesting. I would be a bit pissed of by paying some 100$ more for the e/OS version, but anyway, freedom and privacy have no price

I checked both pages, and it seems to be either 1;1 on Price (599 EUR → 649 USD) for the 8gb Ram version. on both sites, if not just +50 USD. Though I wonder if that’s also the same cost to import/ship on in from Europe to the US.

@gfwp

Is the basic model locked with Android?

Nope!, thats one thing about the Fairphones, they get OS Ports, be it Lineage, e/OS, or UT. I believe there are more though.

@gfwp

It’s harder and harder to find new hardware. The global dictatorship advances.

Can’t disagree with you on that one… For me the seemingly end all device was the OnePlus 6, right before they started taking hw features away, but even then that’s an older phone… Alternatives being the Pro1 X from F(x)tec, or Volla. – Thats why I’m picking Fairphone for now. Of course if something is better in the long run, I might pick that instead. – For me I guess I’ll see how Jolla proceeds

[wladi_1981]

Last option - Jolla choose Chinese device from ali or whatever, and we buy it on our own. They’ve very good range of products, because they produce for whole world.