I have my Xperia 10 III that is getting a little old and the battery is on its end. I was wondering if anyone knows how long support will continue for the IV and V as Ive been eyeballing some cheap ones on Ebay.
As the new Jolla phone is comming out I can imagine that most of the focus in terms of support will go to that one but I much more prefer the narrower formfactor of the Xperias. Any information would make me very happy
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There hasn’t been any official information. Some community meeting had topic about this some months ago where Jolla said that they haven’t made any decisions to move away from Sony devices. But I assume as the development of IV and V has been so hard and relies heavily on Sony, if J2 is much easier to develop I would assume they see the benefit of pushing most of the resources there. Especially as Sony devices don’t really bring any revenue or cash in.
But my guess is as good as your here….
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Probably the J2 is a better purchase. But it will take a while until its available.
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Considering their track record - oldest still fully supported device since 2018 - I’m not worried.
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C2 will most probably not be available officialy anymore in the future.
But support of C2 will stay for years.
If that is the case and it will be just the 3 batches i believe its a real need to start discussing on a j3.
Ups, sorry this markings J2 and C2 are two similar for me.
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Ok. Gotsa. Even though i’d like to see a discussion about a phone that is not made from a part bin.
I see, but as the V is officially supported now, at least it might be getting some updates for a couple of years still? I ofc get that J2 probably will be no1 priority but it seems like alot of people have the 10V in hand and at this point they probably have the system figured out enough to update it for a while no?
The 10V is still in “beta”-phase. The official support is not officially released and the phone is for most people not usable as a daily.
My experience of the last supported devices is: There will be updates of the SFOS for the 10V for a lot of years. Ironing out the small issues of the device specific adaption will go around a year or two. After that period some devices have been working without problems (like XA2 or 10ii) and some other devices have still a few minor issues (X only gets GPS only while moving, 10iii still sometimes has echo while calling, three camera support only over workarounds, GPS-Signal breaks when switching from 5G to 4G - so mostly the leftovers are things enthusiasts can live with)
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History shows from 7-10 years of support. They do it as long as it is reasonable.
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The problem is not about how long it will be supported. The problem is that it’s been almost 2 years and the device is still not ready for daily use.
And we are talking about sfos here, the bar for daily use is already low compared to the rest of the market.
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Personally I think those in the SFOS community who purchased the Xperia 10 iv & v have been more than patient. Nearly two years after the commitment to support these devices, with almost no progress to a properly usable release in that time, is not good. Either Jolla should deliver on their commitment within a reasonable timeframe, or they shouldn’t make such a commitment in the first place.
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As a non-normie user, I’m always patiently waiting AT LEAST 2 (two!) years, before I purchase a newly supported device and migrate to it.
This strategy was successful with my Xperia X, XA2 and now X10iii, which seems to be long enough for Jolla to iron things out.
P.S. Do not forget that fact - the X10iii just got its Android VM updated to A13, so @least 4 more years are expected.
P.S. 2 If I were U, I would change the battery (piece of cake) by myself, add some ZRAM optimizations and enjoy it full scale further on.
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I see, the battery I cod change you are right, but what are zram optimizations?
Here U R:
P.S. If I were U, I would first test with 2GB of ZRAM and no swap. In case that’s not enough according to your needs - then further test with 3GB and 1GB of swap.
P.S. 2 May U never forget to properly backup your data before doing such a modifications.
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First of all, thank you for your contribution and for pointing out the importance of making a backup before performing such a deep intervention in a device’s settings.
I’ve tested several “amounts” and Swappiness values for ZRAM on my Xperia 10 III, and I think the best setup (naturally, IMHO) is 4 GB of ZRAM, a Swappiness of 20, and a 1 GB swapfile.
In any case, my workaround is fully customizable, so everyone is free to adjust it however they prefer, based on their own needs and device.
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Thank you for linking me, does this method work on later models too if I where to pick one up or is it straightly 10III?
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I’ve already implemented it on XA2, making it by that usable again.
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No one can really predict what Jolla will do in the future, but in general ZRAM is a Linux kernel module, not something tied specifically to the Xperia 10 III. As long as SailfishOS keeps using a standard kernel and doesn’t introduce anything unusual, ZRAM should work on any supported device. It’s a well‑established technology and it will remain usable as long as it’s needed… or until something better comes along.
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