Hello
i use Linux for Privacy,security and freedom.
yesterday my phone fell and i have a black spot on the screen but it’s still usable.
since I’m looking quit some time for a replacement, and the Xperia 10V is still not ready;
reading around i saw Grapheneos was a possibility but i don’t know much beyond the basics i read.
do you find it an issue using this OS?
are there any cons?
it seems more secure with better support.
what are your thoughts?
(i only use Firefox,whatsapp and mails.)
GrapheneOS is not just “an OS” - it is an Android distribution. Something like how Brave is a reskinned and tweaked Chrom(e/ium). If that’s what you want; go right ahead - don’t lay it on us to make choices for you.
asking for thoughts and opinions from experienced users,
i didn’t ask what should i do.
I also was tempted by GrapheneOS, given the Xperia 10 V alpha blob debacle. I found the sandboxing approach convincing, but I cannot stand the Pixel phones. I tried them in a local shop, but in my view Pixels are unbelievably ugly devices. Therefore, GrapheneOS was not an option anymore.
I use a Volla Quintus right now, very soon there will be support for dual boot.
An Android system with reduced google (only microG) is for my privacy requurements sufficient.
What I miss the most with (nearly) google-free Android is Lipstick: the UI of SFOS is much more beautiful than anything else in Android world.
Try the Pixel phones in a shop, if the hardware is to your liking, I think GrapheneOS is a valid and nice alternative that gives you the control over googles app rights, or better leave out google completely
Your questions are so vague, you might just as well have.
But this is besides the point.
Comparing an Android distribution and an actually independent OS is comparing apples and oranges. If you don’t care about the distinction, go right ahead, but this is the Sailfish OS Forum, not the degoogled forum. It is like showing up at the Mozilla forum and asking about opinions about Brave. Your usage of Firefox would imply you understand something about not feeding the monoculture, but perhaps you don’t care.
me as many other here need to find a solution quit quickly and make purchases decisions and the direction we’re going.
with no real communications on a timeline or the expectations we should have, we’re left in the dark.
since more experienced users probably already looked into alternatives,I’m asking for their opinion.
would i be glad to use Graphene OS? no, but i need the best working solution currently that is not full Google.
if it bothers you,there are other open threads you can go harass.
Use Apple! Is the best not full Google solution. Isn’t it what you are looking for?!
You can buy Nova phones from Huawei, no google inside, pretty good hardware.
You can flash most Sony’s phones with in-house Sony’s Emma tool and get AOSP on them, no google anymore after that.
But in both cases (Huawei’s Emui or Sony’s AOSP) they moslty fork google’s extensive work, namely Android. So you somewhat join that ecosystem.
Or you can use a system as Sailfish, which works great for many use cases, not all.
Allows you to use pure linux apps side by side with (optionally) android ones.
Xperia 10 III is ready if you need to buy ‘now’.
C2 pretty much as well (order here, made in Europe! Jolla shop )
VI and V maybe kind if ready for daily use in a couple of month (if bugs get cleared).
I’ve managed to stay on SailfishOS for a long time recently but in the past years I used to switch between SFOS and GrapheneOS (GOS) about every six months because something started to annoy me and then I switched and then something started to annoy me there and I’d switch back 
Anyway, interface-wise GrapheneOS is just stock Android which you can either run degoogled (more or less like running Android apps on SFOS) or with sandboxed Google Services in which case almost every app works like it would on “normal” Androids.
(Below the surface the appeal of GOS is that they’ve hardened it.)
So for your use-case, Firefox WhatsApp and mail, there’s not a big difference between either SFOS or GOS.
For privacy and security, it is GrapheneOS running on a Google Pixel device.
As you may already know, Graphene OS is basically Android Open Source Project without any Google services. For details, Features overview | GrapheneOS and check their forum https://discuss.grapheneos.org/
Pixel devices are current devices with up to 7 major Android upgrades from the day the device was launched.
i’ll wait a bit more as long as my current phone can hold, in hope that developers of SFos see the urgency of the community and provide some expectations/approximate date or state their intentions moving forward.
Thanks.
