What about a Liberapay SFOS community team

Around the recent enthusiasm for @poetaster in https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/money-pot-to-offer-a-j2-as-a-gift-to-poetaster/ I though again about how to reduce friction in supporting libre-software devs, and the SFOS community here.

I paid for my Jolla licence and would like to financially support community efforts but I won’t bother to set a list of my 20 preferred apps, searching for each donation links and repeating the process each year.

Here I note that poetaster is using Liberapay, among at least 10 others. With Liberapay we can setup team profiles as unique donation entry points (and with configurable income ratios behind to be discussed).

I would like to help setting up such a team as I already did for :

Are we herding this way ? Please :

  • answer here to list your Liberapay dev accounts

  • suggest a name and a logo for the team (I’m not a graphics guy)

  • recall past debates I would have missed on the subject (or that were lost over forum move/reset)

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But how would the “income shares” (as they call them) be determined? I think the donor deciding is still the best (or least bad) idea.

That is an internal governance question to solve by debate. « All the same share » is an option, but we can imagine stats made from the app “stores” votes for each apps, of download rates, are whatever…

A way for users to decide for their own would be to simply use the Liberapay team profile as a bookmark collection of projects available (and make individually differentiated donations). It would still be useful as a starting point.

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The shares can be determined by the members. Since it’s dispersed immediately, the team members have to agree to this up front.

I think it’s a good idea to have a single point, though from the vantage of the developer, it’s not so good :slight_smile: I’ve never made any money on librepay (well, since last year, 9 cents a week) so it can’t hurt.

In any case, making it easier to donate is a good thing, I believe.

EDIT: teams are described here: https://liberapay.com/about/teams

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Isn’t such things the purpose of Sailmates?

Sailmates has a broad enough purpose, but since it’s a ‘club’ it can’t easily take money and disburse it without fairly tight constraints. Something like regularly occuring disbursements look a lot like ‘employment’ and that can get tricky. I’ll try to get the point onto the agenda. We have a meeting on the 21st of January at 18:30 CET

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@rubdos is using librepay, I believe. What do you think Ruben?

I think it’s a good idea in principle, but I can envision some troubles regarding the shares indeed. Could we have a team that also encourage individual donations? I have https://liberapay.com/rubdos/ and https://liberapay.com/Whisperfish/ separately; Gabriel and Matti are also on the WF team.

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I think the idea was to make it ‘easy’ for those not discriminate and in a hurry? I think there are few enough of us that it hard matters :slight_smile: Well, at least it doesn’t gather income for me and I get many more donations directly via paypal. For my part, I’m fine with an even split or less :slight_smile: More is less. Or is less more?

I agree in spiritu, and I’ll be happy to partake. I still fear the future discussions though, although I pinky promise not to start or provoke any! :slight_smile:

I would have forgotten about librepay YEARS ago if it wasn’t for the annoying notification I get every week that I have 9 cents (I think it went up this week to 20 cents!) in income from librepay. So, count on me to forget about librepay until that changes. so, I’ll just make a team and invite you and you can silently take all the cash since I’m EXPECTING 9 (20) cents a week!

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So, I think you’ve got the implicit permission of myself and @rubdos to add us to a saillfishos developers team :slight_smile: I’m at https://liberapay.com/poetaster/ and rubos at https://liberapay.com/rubdos/

(ducks and runs).

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I’d also be interested in joining :slight_smile:

I actually receive some coins via Liberapay from time to time: https://liberapay.com/ichthyosaurus/ (A big thank you to all who donated, it’s much appreciated!)

Since the whole subscription thing started, I added a reminder to all my apps that invites users to help with coding, translations, or by donating. Maybe that’s why some people notice my Liberapay?

All of you can add this page to your apps too, by the way: GitHub - Pretty-SFOS/opal-supportme: A dialog asking for support that is shown when a user has used your Sailfish app for some time. :slight_smile: (it’s GPL v3 though)

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