I can think a lot of things that I would like to see starting from MeeGo were I feel sfos went backwards with quite a few things.
I remember being very disappointed with sfos 1 as an example compared to MeeGo and there were a lot of changes going up to sfos 3 that made it extremely different. And for me, that was for the best.
But guess what. Even back then you would hear the same things about how perfect each UI/UX/Gestures were, until the next version came and suddenly it was great.
My point regarding UX is not an overhaul. But slow, meaningful additions and refinements that will keep the UI up to date and interesting.
I am also a huge fan of options. Itās 2026, we should be able to customize our devices appearance easy and natively without 50 patches and all the potential issues that come when you have a lot of them.
For an OS that doubled down on the whole full ambiance vibe from the start as an example, you would expect that they would take aesthetics seriously!
Kind oft magic, but Blackbarry OS 10 has very similar gestures based control and it was really good. My BB Passport SE work even now better as Sony 10III with SFOS now
Yes, I used also many years Blackberry, also have a Passport in the drawer, if it only would have a current browser that could get behind Clourdflareā¦
But design wise, I prefer MeeGo or SFOS with unified ambiences.
In my previous work I was forced to use iOS, that was a nightmare experience in multiple aspects, also in UX, terribly ugly and incoherent
I had to use iOS for a good long time last year, the camera was a huge surprise, really the best fixed lens digital camera I ever used. However I couldnāt get over how bad the keyboard/text prediction was, itās terrrrrrible, aggressively bad. So many issues, that it seems to purposefully ignore ābadā words, makes woeful predictions from swipe, and then will actually retroactively change text in the split second before you hit send, it was amazing. How can it be so bad when they have so much money and so many users?
The best thing about using an iPhone for a good stretch was learning to appreciate Sailfish all over again.
Well Presage works sufficiently good, I also had trouble with iOS, but as said, I had to use it in my previous job, and the list about things I hated with Apple was looooooooong
I mean, I also hate a lot of things Apple does and I definitely love so many from sfos, but keyboard, XT9 and typing experience in general is just bad.
Well, just to add a different perspective: I used to think the same (typing experience on mobile OSes being bad in general), but then I had to replace an ASUS tablet with a Samsung one (both android)ā¦ and Iām baffled at how much worse the experience is on the Samsung compared to everything else Iāve used.
Like, it is consistently, actively ruining what I type, to the point where people can now tell when Iām typing from there instead of my SFOS phone (or a computer) because of the many more āwrongā words (wrongly autocorrected by the keyboard without me noticing) that slip into the messages I send, whereas the ASUS keyboard was bearable and learned my typing habits in a much more sensible way. SFOS with OKBoard is also much better in that regard.
So yes, I can understand what Meego-Junky says: even among non-ideal options, the worse ones still hurt more than the rest
No.
The whole raison dāĆtre of Sailfish was to continue the Linux-based mobile operating system(s) that Nokia started.
The slide gesture interface was introduced (afaik) with the N9.
Personally I donāt believe any standard mobile phone camera lens is even Good, and never will be because theyāre simply too small.
But they compensate a lot with a) megapixel overkill and b) software.
And damn, that software is good. They (both iOS and Android) know that itās something even a layman can see. Itās a huge selling point.
Interesting as, whilst not defending iOS, I have found their Swype keyboard really good. I turn off auto-correct and edit myself. On my SailfishOS, I use OKboard and I find I need to be really careful and precise with the swyping and keyboard.
Iām probably used to small, my main digital camera is a M43, and my favourite is an Epson RD1 with a tiny sensor, so the iPhone camera (15 Max pro) is fine. The fake DOF is occasionally shitty, and the telephoto is crappy, and the macro is not a real macro, but the normal objective is just amazing, especially in low light. Itās a little like having a Tri-Elmar style lens, a wide, normal and tele, but a shit tele.
But yeah, itās nothing compared to a ārealā camera, but when I was carrying it around as a phone it was amazing to have that level of quality, compared to the camera in the Xperia 10 III, which is bad enough and then laggy as hell with Sailfish.
Really hoping the new phone camera is at least OK. That is the only really weak aspect of these phones.
Is it also intuitive when you try to access the quick controls by swiping down from the top of the screen, but instead the application you are in just vanishes before your eyes, because, depending on context, a swipe down can also close the current app?
The one still availabe if you use Xperia lll is great. It learns how one spells and does not impose imported patois that then needs to be corrected. The space bar long press to move cursor is missing though. Even UT has that.
I asked Jolla 4-5 years ago if thereās any chance to add more languages and if there will be an update if I remember correctly.
They replied to me that XT9 is heavily outdated (even then) and should be updated but they donāt have any eta.
Imagine the company itself knowing that something is dated for many years and yet some insist that itās great. Good enough āfor meā and actually great is not the same thing.
For me the combo sfos keyboard layout/theme - XT9 - missing languages - 21:9 aspect ratio of 10 III is a benchmark for what could be the worst typing experience on a phone for this century. Rivaling Nokia 3650 and 7600.
I agree. Completely overthrowing everything just to be ādisruptiveā would be nonsense.
Regarding options: I also prefer to have many of them. On the other hand, overwhelming (new) users with too many configuration possibilities is bad. However, I could happily live with an official āAdvanced UI Optionsā module on the Utilities page of the Settings app, or the decision that such additional options are only visible when Developer Mode is enabled, or something similar. Yes, one can apply a bunch of patches instead and live trouble-free ā¦ until the next OS update.
Many things have already been proposed in the past. Some have been implemented more or less, for example the feature which I called āAimed scrollingā in the posting below - it exists in the Gallery app for quite some time already, but should be available in other apps too:
Other features remained mere proposals as of now:
I think that with this yearās new Jolla phone, some careful UX/UI refreshing and enhancing should be done too. Again, without trying to completely overthrow the signature Look & Feel of Sailfish OS.
Wow, you actually think car controls are intuitive?
Car controls are among the most unintuitive inputs in any end-user product.
Thatās why you have to go to driving SCHOOL. Duhā¦
and it was really good. My BB Passport SE work even now better as Sony 10III with SFOS now 
