Moto did it too : Moto Mods: Every module you can clip to your Motorola phone | TechRadar
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official sleek design keyboard toh, stfu and take my money, please!
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These look cool. Can we has adapter for TOH2?
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Hmm and here I thought this would finally be the year I don’t buy a new phone. I almost made it!
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It was available much earlier (2003 → V: GPS/GPRS Jacket für iPAQ - Suchen (Flohmarkt) - pocketnavigation.de Forum ). I had a ‘jacket’ with two SD cards for memory expansion for my IPAQ PDA.
I came from Palm/HP webOS, so please make a physical keyboard. I miss it so much.
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Connectivity LoRa 868Mhz .
That could enable LoRaWAN , Meshtastic and other decentralised outside the web messaging.
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Since this is a pre-order, you will be actually ordering somewhere early next year. So you can still make it this year!
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A TOH with a normale SD card slot would be nice. As it would be possible to transfer photos from your camera to your phone.
A TOH with extra ports would be usable when Sailfish supports “convergence” where you could use it as a desktop with an external monitor.
For both of these use cases a transfer speed of 10MB/s or more would be desired.
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The idea with ToH isn’t bad, but it’s only really suitable for hobbyists and developers… not so much for everyday use.
When I think about what my phone has to endure in terms of dirt, moisture, and shocks, replacing the battery is quite a challenge.
There are other things that are much more important to me.
Such as Bluetooth connectivity similar to Android CarPlay, so that you can make calls properly using the hands-free system in your car and get a clear display of your route. Functioning savings bank apps, health insurance apps, and so on, and if possible without Google in between. Conclusion: improve everyday usability without sacrificing data protection, etc., and then you’ll find more potential customers for it.
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Poll 4: Attaching mechanism
I’ve seen no one have mentioned the attaching mechanism I would like: magnets.
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Was mentioned above but the more the better, maybe Jolla hadn’t thought of it and will consider:
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Cinecamera module → C-mount or micro four thirds camera module → Global shutter and raw footage capture → Fills the niche somewhere between a pocket cinema camera and action camera while also working as a phone. The downside is upgrading the phone renders the module obsolete, unless it is also modular. Also battery consumption.
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Gamepad dock → Add Steamdeck/Switch style functionality → Hall effect joysticks and tactile buttons → Creates and open handheld pocket games console. These already exist for Android phones in a generic sense but a Jolla specific one could include extra battery, active cooling, and fit the phone perfectly. The ability to swap the joystick for a D-pad without cramming both onto the same platform would be a bonus. It should look like a Gameboy Advance or PSP when assembled.
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Having originally voted for 1 Mb/s (as I was only really thinking of a keyboard), I now think it would be great if a USB (2.0 speed might be good enough, but 3.X could be an option) port could be broken out through contacts accessible to a TOH accessory. It could unlock a huge number of opportunities for add-ons.
I still remember having the RCA adapter for my N900 allowing me to connect to a display or projector, as well as the SW mods that enable USB host functionality on the microUSB port.
To have similar scope for customisation on a modern true Linux privacy-focused platform would be amazing.
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I like the idea of an M.2 connector.
They can be quite low-profile, and a flex-PCBA could be used to make the electrical connection to the TOH (is it “the TOH” or “the OH”?) accessory.
Using an E-key interface could give access to USB, UART, SDIO, and I2C, avoiding a lot of the discussions around which interface is the right one.
If some ports aren’t available or can’t be easily broken out from the processor, they could potentially be left unconnected and documented as such in the interface spec.
Supporting battery connections might be a challenge, but maybe there’s another way to address this.
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With a second USB-c port and the smallest of the Yubikey units, such integration would be pretty easy. …I just wish there was an equally small device from Solokeys.
For me to be useful the TOH should not add too much weight or bulk to the phone.
Quiet a few other people already mentioned it should not stick out beyond the camera optics.
But weight is an issue, too. No one wants a phone of half a kilo.
When I first read about TOH I wanted a keyboard, but making a robust keyboard for day to day work will add weight. And for any lengthy and serious typing a TOH keyboard will still be unsuitable. There are already other solutions for that.
I very much would like to have a second screen which is independent of the main screen.
Should be light in weight and easy on the battery. (I can dream, can´t I?)
Connectivity is also important to me. I would love to have a phone that could interface with several peripheral devices concurrently (external screenS, keyboard, even mouse, several microSD slots, …). Kinda pocket computer that could be used as a desktop/laptop stand-in. I just prefer to work on my own devices than have to use someone else’s stuff. Yes, it probably will be underpowered but I would not necessarily have to expose my data. (Still dreaming.)
I do not know about additional sensors. Of what use are they when the phone is tugged away in a pocket or lying on desk doing nothing (or me doing nothing) most of the time?
I definitely do not want a latch-on-powerbank. Weight again. Why lugging around so much additional weight all the time? External powerbanks at rock bottom cost solve that problem nicely whenever I am away from other power sources for an extended period of time.
Wireless charging might be useful, but only if no more data is exchanged than required for the charging job.
Most important of all, and I am repeating here what others have written before: The TOHs are useless, if the phone and its OS fall short on their primary task, namely being useful as a daily driver.
If that is not the case, a TOH, any TOH, will not make a difference.
And for the design and production planning: I eventually might consider buying a TOH should it add value to my use of the phone, but it will be extremely unlikely that I would buy more than one.
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possibly unpopular opinion: i think the notion of TOH as a hot-swappable module for adding features, aesthetics, etc, as-needed, is and always was silly. i dont think many folks ever actually cared about ambiences or the colour of the back cover automatching the software theme, and i dont think anyone would want to carry around other TOHs to swap during the course of a day.
HOWEVER, i would pay good money for a permanent e-ink always-on-screen that i could show a custom status on. other folks would pay good money for a physical keyboard, or a permanent extra battery. the benefit of this kind of modularity is customisation of a single device to meet the needs of different people, not the needs of different days of the week. if you change it, it would be because your needs changed, not your mood changed.
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I always thought the whole concept of a swappable back was nothing more than a gimmick but I’m excited by many of the ideas from this discussion.
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