The Other Half Returns — Community Innovation Program

I would be interested in having a “Bug detector TOH” as the holiday season gets closer. Would be handy to be able to check hotel room / airbnb for hidden mics / cams when entering the room/apartment.

I suppose there are currently no phones available which would have bug detection as feature.

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Interesting idea. That is not very easy and very reliably to do with today’s technology. Frequency hopping, very easy precise time sinch to lower the amplitude, hiding in other RF spaces like WiFi, wired mics, …

What makes that better as a TOH than a standalone device?

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Basically meaning the same as camera phones made standalone pocket cameras irrelevant for the most users.

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Yep, may not be as accurate as the standalone expensive bug detectors but it could “hold” some basic stuff for starters..

(The forum software claims you replied to me, but i’m not convinced it can tell that and a latest answer in the thread apart).

Not entirely. Cameras needs screens/viewfinders, processing, storage - and rather often you want the image immediately accessible on your phone.

I guess the bug detector needs power and a speaker - not very high level of integration.
Marginally better synergy than a shaver TOH.

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There is a shaver TOH???
Done are the days where I want to shave a rectangle on my leg where my right front pocket is!

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Could be a generic SDR TOH, possibly with transmitting capability like HackRF which could be way more versatile.

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Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere, but is there any update on when the TOH specifications will be released?

I’d hope/expect that the Jolla team will have some prototypes to show off alongside the launch of the device, but having some third-party or community efforts also in progress could help to create some additional visibility and really show the potential of what this platform could offer.

Edit to answer my own question. I read the forum and posts in the wrong order.

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Does anyone know what the height of the “pocket” to the left of the TOH connector is?

If it was possible to provide a STEP file for the rear cover, it could make it much easier for interested parties to start developing TOH accessories. A reference design for the retaining clips would be the most useful aspect, in my opinion.

I assume some TOH accessories are already in the work, but anything that can be done to attract more community-led developments feels like a positive.

Not there yet but close.

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Here is some more specs related to TOH: Add TOH detection to documentation by Tomin1 · Pull Request #467 · sailfishos/docs.sailfishos.org · GitHub from yesterday community meeting

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I hope Jolla doesn’t ever gain Courage…. :laughing:

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I am happy, if new JP2 would play musik with usb-c to 3,5mm adapter. Offcause active one.

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+1 to control aircon and Tv among others device like I do on xiaomi smartphone

+1

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I would think a ‘mini Jolla Mind2’ as the other half would be logical, to use at the go, and at the same time upgrade Jolla Mind 2 to function as a router, and possible homehub for a lot of connectivity fun.

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Mouse like sensor, or touchpad. To bring the cursor on screen and surf Internet and apps, vnc, with precision. By moving phone on desk, on some rollers, or swiping by finger on phone back, like on a trackball.

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I had a similar thought.

How intuitive (or not) do people think a touchpad on the rear of the device could be, possibly coupled with a slide-out keyboard, similar to the original TOHKBD?

I’m not a big fan of moving the cursor by holding the spacebar on Apple and Android.

There’d need to some consideration for how the device would be held in that use-case, and a way to disable the touchpad functionality through hardware or software.

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This worked on PS Vita

I mean using from both sides

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Next questions in relation to mouse and keyboard support over the TOH interface.

Are the I2C port and the interrupt (INT) pin connected in such a way that they could support a standard I2C HID peripheral (HID-over-I2C protocol compliant)?

If so, will the standard Sailfish OS build for the Jolla Phone support HID-over-I2C out of the box, or will a custom driver (or drivers) be needed.

I’m genuinely interested in doing the hardware and firmware development for something like this, unless someone more capable (who I’d be happy to help/collaborate with) gets there before me. However, my kernel development skills are lacking (non-existent), so if that’s required, I’ll need to seek some support.

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