Summer greetings from Finland with a new Jolla Phone - and some banking apps related stuff

Lately I was travelling in Tampere (Jolla’s hometown in Finland) and surroundings. Finnish summer was showing its kinder cheek to me and I enjoyed exploring waterways on my SUP board.

Finland is famous for its thousands of lakes, and there are about 188000 lakes here. If you’ve been with Jolla’s journey from the beginning, you’ll know that early OS releases were named after Finnish lakes: Releases | Sailfish OS Documentation.
Above photo portrays not only one of our lakes but was also taken on an island and those we have even more, about 225000 of them. So a clear win for the islands. Possible naming scheme in the future(?)

Photo was taken with my new Jolla Phone. Pictures are already looking nice if you happen to get a good white balance to the photo and avoid getting sky to turn into a cyan overblown with highlights. Jolla has said that they’ll fine tune still the camera, surely getting better with upcoming releases. Even now it is hands down the best camera experience I’ve ever had on a Sailfish phone.

Cola, coffee and candies
I reached out to Jolla to talk about payment apps, and to my huge surprise they invited me to visit their Tampere office. I figured they would be too busy handling orders and customer support. Yet, they still made time to sit down and chat with me.

Sami, Raine and Harri welcomed me with coffee/cola and dangerously good candies. Couldn’t stop eating them and I hope Jolla doesn’t go bankrupt because of my snacking.

New Jolla Phone
We were discussing in general about the Jolla Phone’s launch, deliveries, community forum and how to make newcomers feel welcome. The apps unfortunately play a gigantic role here as we all know. Sami wanted to lift up a site in this this regard:
http://sailfishos.app/ (a community project - not affiliated with Jolla)
Jolla would like to see more input of users there.

By the way, I’m thinking about making a “hands on, detailed onboarding instructions - my way”. Then a newcomer can follow it and copy those parts that suit them. But we shall see when I’d have time for such an effort. Would need maybe revert to factory settings and write it that way - otherwise impossible to remember everything…

Payment/Banking apps
Let’s be honest. Banking apps are a major hurdle for the Sailfish. And there is no easy nor extensive one solution for it. We will need to approach it on multiple fronts. This would be the nicest thing to see on screen on a native app (or without an app for that matter):

Further discussing about payment apps while me and Sami were getting ourselves drunk on candy. Raine and Harri have better immunity against that sweet nectar, it seems.

However, Jolla is very well aware about the problem with payment apps. Sami shed some light that there would be talks with few European actors on this matter during autumn. And I wish them success with the talks!

Payment Apps Work Group
To complement Jolla’s efforts on payment/banking apps - community effort is being gathered in a form of a work group. Although I myself don’t have much knowledge I wanted to at least coordinate this further. So, we are going to have a kick-off for a work group called “Sailfish Payment Apps Work Group - Europe” during late August.

Already now there is a group chat for the group here in this forum. If you happen to have contacts into the banking world, can make code on Android/AAS/Sailfish, and feel also that something needs to be done - don’t hesitate to post your reply on the thread saying that you want to join:

As we speak there is an active member in the group who has already initiated a “SailWero” project for implementing native connection for Wero paying app. Simultaneously the “digital euro” is coming slowly but steadily. There are quite interesting things coming on the horizon.

Sami (half-?)promised that there can be a Jolla employee as a contact person for Jolla’s behalf and I hope we could get the Work Group as a representant on Sailfish’s behalf so that banking companies would actually listen to the Work Group. We’ll see how it proceeds.

When it was time to say good bye, we took still a photo (with my Jolla Phone) next to Giga Jolla (which will get a Giga-sister with all OS functions and swipes - that would be a real road show people magnet!).

While leaving I snapped a bunch of those “The European smartphone” -fliers. I’m planning to strategically place these on hotel lobbies, libraries and gas stations and such where random by-passers will see them - somebody might get interested or knows someone else who is interested.


This photo also with Jolla Phone.

Thank you for reading (sorry about a lot of unnecessary information and spam you needed to read to get through the whole post). Have a nice day :slightly_smiling_face:

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You are doing very important thing with trying to improve the situation with banking apps! Thanks for the update, real pleasure to read :slight_smile:

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Thanks for this nice story-telling and the photos! :heart:

But one thing that’s really killing me is these shoes! :rofl:

Sorry couldn’t resist - no worries!
Maybe someone can enlighten me about that!
Is that a special Finnish thing?
I’ve never seen it before.

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HAha! :smiley: These are “Reino” shoes, very cozy and also very popular in Finland :smiley:
Go Raine!

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Those are very popular Reinot! Very popular shoes, mostly indoors these days. Reinot – Wikipedia

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Thank you for the enlightenment—it’s always nice to learn new cultural things like this. :+1:

So maybe I’ll order some too!

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Merch idea! :joy:  

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Oh, yes, good, why not including 50 or 100 of these flyers with the phones to be shipped!?
So, everyone can strategically place them.

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I would definitely buy! xD

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There are also the ladies slippers called Aino whose popularity led to the creation of Reino.

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I just had to mark the comment of @fingus as the “solution” of this thread, it’s a bull’s eye :bullseye: :joy:

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No, I’ve seen them in our country too. They are nicely warm in the winter. Or great solution for eternal cold feet.

But guys, please! On topic.

These are also very popular throughout Europe. We call them socks but mostly wear them inside shoes.

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My mom taught me to leave my shoes at the front door when I go in.
But that’s what Sami also tried to say to me that it’s ok to have shoes on at Jolla office.
We are quite in the core of the topic :ok_hand:

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Huh, I noticed that during my own visit, yet didn’t occur to me to take my shoes off. So many interesting cultural differences across the continent. Fantastic!

Cool post, @lumen! You had better weather than when I was there. I’m sure @abranson recalls me being kinda drowned.

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The reason is simple I guess. There is a lot of winter and snow in Finland (at least for the time being … melting in Vienna at 40°C right now ;)). If you don’t leave the shoes at the entrance, you’ll pull in a ton of dirt and water into your home. That’s also the reason for the funky shoe shrubbers you commonly see at the entrance, if I remember correctly.

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If the host doesn’t offer ‘public use’ slippers, you’re fine with shoes-on, noone carries an extra pair of slippers (and it seems that’s what happened with lumen who insisted on going socks-on), afaict the slipper etiquette was followed

Super interesting! Shoes off is rather common here too, especially on wood flooring (although there are households expecting you to keep them on), but I’ve never seen that in office spaces.

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Oh yeah, never seen that in an office space (in some small companies, yeah, but much smaller what I imagine jolla office is)

To be honest I use often shoes myself too when in an office. But the question is actually…why should I have shoes…it’s inside just as when I’m home. And you don’t go in shoes atleast not in my home - that would end up in a real short visit with a figure of a shoe on the buttocks.