I actually never understood why uptime is a thing, except from very critical servers.
I’ve used computers since early 80’s and there’s always been a need to reboot things to make them work properly. I am tempted to say, end of discussion.
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Indeed.
Not really. As stated earlier, good operating systems, like e.g. the BlackBerry 10 was, did not require any reboots and worked perfectly fine over literally months without one, nor did their makers ever advise doing so. There were multiple threads on Crackberry forums were Blackberry Passport (and other BB10 models) users were reporting their uptimes, quite often achieving half a year or more (even eight months) without any reboots, and the device still working fine.
So, if a good OS is able remain fully stable and functional after many months without any reboots, I dare to say that advices to reboot every now and then are simply an excuse for an unstable OS.
I totally second that.
Maybe Linux devices do so, but the QNX based BB10 wasn’t. Mine was used normally as my daily driver smartphone (or actually quite heavily, including daily software development work) and lasted months without reboots. I didn’t even think about it, it was a non-issue.
And judging by the trusty Windows 7 on my laptop also normally achieving months of stable work without any reboots (it just gets suspended when I close the lid and then resumes), I’d say that it is quite a common thing.
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And you’ll find jolla 1 repurposed as raspberry pi with touch screen that controls someone’s lights or air conditioning with years of uptime, that means sfos 2.0 was the best and stablest. With updates as frequent as they are it’s a moot point, comparing dead os with a live one is also kinda pointless
Well, my BlackBerry Passport actually still works, and still doesn’t require any reboots. So I wouldn’t say that only because the BB10 OS is no longer developed justifies and excuses that other still developed operating systems are not able to retain stable operation after more than a week without a reboot.
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My n900s still work, if you need them to run a qml interface with 4 buttons with shell/python scripts behind them, try connecting to the world, oops, old certificates, no tlsv1.whatever support, too old openssl, wpa2 forget it, vpn lol… Volte/5g/vowifi is never getting there, but hey they work, and if you want to waste a year of electricity it will lie on your desk alive for a year if you keep it plugged in, maemo is the best os. Uptime is a dick measuring contest, when I stopped too carelessly patching/tweaking my jolla C it easily survived without reboots between updates, good enough for me. Had the audio bug twice in the last year, you can probably recover from it without reboot if you restart services in correct order if uptime is so precious, but with 6 os updates during last 12 months you’re still looking at 2 months uptime max, let me compare it to an os that hadn’t had an update in 8 months in 2016…
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Geez, what kind of nonsense is that? Please, go ahead and say that ability of an OS to keep running stable for months without reboots is actually a disadvatage and a shame, and there won’t be anything left to add in this thread.
As for BlackBerry 10, it is its underlying QNX real time OS (still developed) that’s used to control nuclear power plants, critical life-saving equipment in hospitals, etc… Now we know why it isn’t SFOS or Linux in general - because the power plant’s control center would need to be rebooted weekly and patients in hospitals would need to hold breath or blood circulation while it reboots.
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As I said, my jolla C survived easily between updates, if you want to be proud of your useless bb lying on the desk doing nothing except counting up uptime, your choice, but maybe move that to crackberry forums or whatever else alive place cares. The more things you use, the more likely bugs and memory leaks are, stack keeps growing, features keep getting added, if you fresh flash xperia XIII and just leave it be it will stay working for years but will never catch up to the best sfos 1.0.5 sadly, because of that one jolla 1 that never bothered updating and was a raspberry pi from the start and has 10 years handicap
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Oh. Sure. My BS200 my Z3 do not even need updates at all.
Updates are for cowards.
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That exact same bb had updates for 9 years? (Jolla 1 had lol, frequent enough that noone bothered to boast about 6 months uptime in 2016) No idea why you dropped that phone/os then
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I wish I could understand what you are talking about. And what does it have to do with the fact that BB10 was simply stable and reliable enough to work for months without the need for a reboot. Just that.
For obvious reasons, because the hardware got dated. Not just too slow, but also lacking support for technical features without which one can’t normally use a smartphone these days, like e.g. VoLTE. Which, again, has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote about that OS’s exceptional (and in many aspects still unrivalled) stability and security.
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Indeed, that os died 7 years ago, comparing it to an alive os that constantly adds new features is pointless, the fact you dug out couple of posts boasting about months uptime and remember it that well means it was out of ordinary and normal users running more apps more often did not expect to reach that, if they tweaked their swap, played with kernel configs, installed/compiled newer libs by themselves, installed alma linux binaries (or just added alma repos lol) they probably had comparable uptime until things broke, freshly flashed 10.3 will probably have easy 7 years uptime by now, useless metric, as the os is dead and useless nowadays
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That’s really an impressive way to excuse unreliability and instability resulting in the need to reboot the OS every now and then to fix problems. Please don’t forget to also excuse the web browser that they cannot make not crash like crazy many times a day, or this OS’ exceptional memory management in general causing that you can never know when the app your just working with gets OOM killed and your hard work goes to /dev/null. It’ll be just an interesting read as the above to see how you excuse it.
Anyway, that’s all from me, so have a good day.
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I confirm what benhenderson said!
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I have used Sailfish since middle of November on Xperia 10 lll. What I don’t like is battery life. Sailfish drains battery very much faster than android with same usage. Two sims are working well. Memory card I haven’t tried. Android apps what I have used were working fine allthoug some apps say they do not work without google play services. One android app which don’t work at all is android auto. However I can connect Sony to car system when I put bluetooth on.
I use as Brave as web browser, and it has worked well.
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