Had to look up frugality. Yes same XA2 Ultra that I considered a monster in terms of RAM that surely must be the end all Sailfish device.
Yet compared to 2010 I now use my Sailfish OS “smart phone” to NOT:
-do any XMPP based chatting
-save money on expensive mobile calls by using integrated SIP
-use any type of integrated or third party installed encrypted video call such as Skype.
-surf multiple web sites concurrently
-record audio from different streams
-navigate by GPS guidance & pre loaded maps
-even dream of playing complicated games such as Magic the Gathering clone.
-do multitasking and expect my phone to run a podcast and a a music program side by side without closing all programs unexpectedly to free up memory to do …idling
There are a few applications that I love and that amaze me and I expect to be missing in action come 2030: Speech Note (everything text to speech), Talefish+Slumber combo (audiobooks+system wide audio sleep timer)
Several map software that allow checking maps offline are also pretty nice thanks to convenient memory SD expansion options.
Web surfing being near impossible is not the fault of Sailfish but is due to reliance of many web sites on a multitude of scripts & crap browser based applications that together with third party advertisement and data leeching services making surfing impossible & risky… to drive “app-ification” of everything.
I don’t need a closed source data leeching app to consult every single web page…so to embrace frugality and happily stand & stumble on with Sailfish.
maybe if you didn’t use trash xperias you wouldn’t have those problems
you might think i’m mean but those are facts. Jolla ports are not great because hardware sucks. They keep pumping new ports and since xa2 every new port sucks more and more. Issues that unofficial ports don’t have because they’re on hardware that doesn’t suck. People switching to op6 port are like “whoa, everything works, how is that possible”
Mimimi. I have a six year old phone and it seems kindof slow.
Luckily I have my 10 III. The fresh bleeding edge of space age technology.
Works
a: like the X and XA2 worked in their days
b like a charm.
But late at night, when nobody can here me I am still sobbing… Those poor guys having to flash experimental OSs on their phone antiques and then going all mental because of some game not working.
this is true an not true at the same time
one example Wikipedia is a pain in the neck in SfOS 5.* much more than it was with 4.*
while it works flawless with SfOS 3.3
while it works flawless on desktop linux with a web browser called “surf”, this an extremely stripped out WebKit based browser
of course i usually immediately quit web site that are trying to enforce me doing something i do not want
this is part of being frugal!!
The Wikipedia is an example of a (dis?)information operation website that by its very nature would like to make its content accessible to as wide a platform base as possible.
On both Sailfish 3 and 5 I am able to get the Wikipedia front page loaded, use the internal search and read an article. No complaints from a simple reader perspective. Happy to not be forced to use an “app” or use an account.
Scrolling down on the Wikipedia main page I notice difference in functionality like “statistics” is missing on Sailfish 3 browser.
On Sailfish 5 browser this “statistics” is there but does not work. That means to me that my assessment is correct that “modern” web sites never seize to ad more scripts & crap running in the background wherever they detected a capable platform.
Huge enterprises like Wikipedia offer backward compatibility (luckily but they are exceptions).
I remember in the past having experimented with “user agent” browser plugin’s that allow a pose “look my poor old browser is only capable of text & images, have mercy on me in developing country with first gen 2G Symbian smartphone…”
So to make Wikipedia fluent in whatever you like to do on it, your Sailfish 5 browser would have to be able to pose as Sailfish 3 browser?
I tried a uncompromising “simple” website select45rpm.com on both Sailfish 3 and 5 and user experience is same (landscape needed for menu to work) despite 12 year old hardware on Sailfish 3, this confirms me that websites can be kept updated for years without need to add crap to chase us to download our “app”.
“of course i usually immediately quit web site that are trying to enforce me doing something i do not want
this is part of being frugal!!” ->> the faster the hardware and the more capable the browser the less likely your are being able to quit before getting violated
There’s no integrated SIP in Sailfish as we had in Maemo/MeeGo, but there’s the s1p app on OpenRepos, which works fine on my XA2 with my VoIP provider.
