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for me, on tmobile, MMS works, 100% of the time, just not easily. try using epc.tmobile.com for the MMS APN. (‘group messaging’, which is a purely USA monstrosity, also sort of works. you receive them as individual MMS messages from the sender, which is how it works on android+ios, too. the message app just stitches them together in the ui. making proper group messaging is something we could do ourselves in a messaging app on top of telepathy/commhistory/mms-engine/etc)
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please update here if at&t works, as that would give options for additional potential devices.
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as for not giving a shishkabob about the good ol US of A, jolla/jollyboys very explicitly and publicly do not target the US market. you cannot even buy a license to use sailfish unless you lie and say you live in europe. this is very clearly and publicly stated, so it is strange to complain about them spending time developing things to support their business instead of doing the things they explicitly said are not part of their business.
Or iodéOS. It’s made in Europe, but does support users in USA. I believe they have just started employing someone in the US (part-time) to help out in their community forums. I’m in UK, and use iodéOS on my ‘daily driver’, until I can get SailfishOS working well enough to make the switch. MMS seems to work fine, though I don’t use it much.
I like that Shiskabob thing! LOL!! my point was not a complaint, it was more a statement of fact. Which I followed up on with the line…
“To be fair to them, this phone OS is not built for the US market so if you use it. You will just have to roll the dice and get lucky like Teleshoes…”
I will report back for sure and I hope the new guy gives it a try. Just pointing out that results may very.
Following up on your other point about Group Messages… you are so right about it being Awful. My screen shot is showing that very thing… I remember back in the day that Meego (Nokia N9) for sure and maybe Symbian OS (Pureview 808) as well had BCC option with in SMS…you could send text to lots of people without every one getting disturbed when someone wrote back.
Today this group message thing is a real horror show! Credit to the Nokia 909 you could silence group chat… at the cost of having microsoft junk for an OS… Those were my darkest days…
So what do you guys use to send pictures and stuff to each other in the UK?
When I was over there in 2007 and 2008 for a few weeks to visit SW19 and see the sights, the one thing I recall and I found it to be so flipping cool and easy at the time was that you could get access to public wifi almost anywhere and it was free, unlike here in the US at the time, US carriers were scamming people forcing them on data plans and charging extra for it; even claiming you could not buy phone X without the expensive extra data plan Y add on; T-Mobile was the exception at the time I think.
The Other cool thing was that people had duel sim phones. Which was unheard of here in the states. At least by me.
I remember how easy it was to run down by any market and get a GSM sim that allowed me to call home to the US for a very cheap rate. It was so easy there…
But, yeah… what do you guys us for pictures?
Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram etc.
Thanks folks - I think this puts Sailfish in my “monitor for now” category, much to my chagrin. I’m liking iodeOS as my backup plan so far. I’m sad to come to that conclusion, but I appreciate the candid info, and I really do want to keep Sailfish on my watch list over time. If they ever decide to support the US market, I’d be keen to try it out. Best wishes to all!
Depends who I’m sending to. Email, WhatsApp, Messenger, email, Element / Matrix