Pure Maps (Native map app)

This just cleared up all my doubts and concerns about MLS packages. Thank you for your patience on questions that I suppose may have seemed too obvious to you.
Thanks @atlochowski, @nephros, @Seven.of.nine :slightly_smiling_face:

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With your question you helped growing a database.

You’re welcome!

Q: Downloaded the MLS packages Positioning - Eastern/Southern/Western Europe (3 packets) from Jolla Store.

Have I to do some configuration in Pure Maps to make the MLS work? Will the MLS packages be recognized by Pure Maps automatically? I can find no related item in the settings of Pure Maps.

Pure Maps does not access MLS data directly but just gets location information from the GPS device (which may access GPS, MLS offline, no more online location services).

So no configuration on Pure Maps / OSM scout.
But only on settings - location…

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In Settings/Location I did now enable “individual settings” and there GPS on and Offline MLS on, but MLS + WLAN Hotspot off.

Is this OK this way?

Yes.

Please [verify] yourself: ([release notes] Kvarken 4.1.0)

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Yes, thats my settings now. My system runs in German language so in my above message I did translate the names of the items only flippant + shorten it…

Thank you so much!

Getting back to the blue marker orientation discussion cause i played a bit outside today with it. First of my compass seems to be working alright.

As it seems -or this is what i understand- the pointy side of the marker seems give the angle you have from north. Ie if you face north the arrow will point to the north, if you turn 90 degrees right the arrow will point 90 degrees right and so on.

No idea which is supposed to be the intended behavior. Its just a bit confusing.

EDIT
Now i got whats going on. The moving pointy side makes sense when you have auto rotation of the map on.

EDIT 2
A suggestion for making it a bit cleared for morons like myself. Three different markers for each state.

  1. Grey round marker that indicates that it doesn’t receive any position info.
  2. Blue round when there is a position but no auto-rotation
  3. Blue pointy one when auto-rotation is on.

I can make the graphics if requested.

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Yes, it is correct. It points as you do when you hold the phone. Similar to showing you direction of your move while you navigate, whether it autorotates the whole map or not.

That pointy marker allows you to get out of the metro in unknown place and orient yourself - data that will be lost when you replace it with the round marker.

If you want write it down to explain to the users and submit as PR for docs or any other helpful info that should be on the homepage, please do so. :slight_smile:

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I still don’t get how the pointy marker can be helpful without the map rotating.

BTW there isn’t a setting to have autorotation and autocentering on by default right???

Re pointy marker without map rotation: It has the same meaning as showing direction, which can be useful without map rotation. Hard for me to explain, as I just start repeating myself. Maybe someone else can help out and explain. For me, it is useful without map rotation.

Re auto- by default: No, we don’t have it.

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App doesn’t work. Position is shown at point roundabout 1 km away from my location and doesn’t move. Did a complete reinstall of pure maps and scout server, but no difference. But it seems that’s a system problem cause other apps seem no to get GPS signal too. Any hints what do do without a reflash?

Sounds like you don’t have GPS lock and are mainly triangulated by radio. Don’t think reflash will help, just go outside and wait with a clear sky. Keep an eye on satellite info using GPSInfo

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The pointy marker can show the direction in what you are moving. When standing, by the compass. When moving, the compass is not needed and direction of moving is calculated by the present and older positions,

So the pointy position mark can also make sense with turned off compass.

The same way speed display is working. Usually GPS devices make one position fix per second, and so they can calculate the speed by the distances between the measured positions (= m/s).

@Cryx What phone are you using? The XA2’s have an issue getting a quick GPS fix. They will show an approximate fix quite quickly using MLS but take 15 minutes sometimes longer to get an accurate fix from the GPS satellites.

The round a bout is most likely the location of the nearest cell phone tower in the MLS database.

@ebohoyod Once you have obtained a GPS lockon (in other words a precise location rather than the approximate location provided by MLS) there is no need to have the SIM ON to maintain a precise location. The GPS satellites will do the job.

If you don’t have the maps downloaded then you cannot use Pure Maps in the off-line mode and will need to have the SIM On.

Yes, it’s XA2. But it’s the first time I recognised this, did first happen with Kvarken…

It’s been a problem for most XA2 owners well before Kvarken

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Its probably the graphic that confused me. On many map platform the “you are here marker” (gmaps openstreet) is pointy but doesn’t indicate direction. When i saw it move around it puzzled me.

Anyway. Lets move on. :slightly_smiling_face:

Is anyone having issues with the compass lately on Pure Maps? It works on the individual tests yet it doesn’t seem to work with the app.