There’s an old iPhone with an activated DHL app somewhere in the drawer for the day they put one of my parcels into one of that BT-operated parcel lockers. Happened exactly once so far.
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Kinda solidifies my point; no one should have to resort to or be forced to rely on “apps” if all devices already share the protocols and the browser.
Your devices all have Bluetooth, WiFi and an HTML5 capable browser; so you had all the required hardware and software to open the locker; yet you still couldn’t.
I’m not against apps per say, they have a function, but a browser should be a required fallback solution for platforms which are not Android and iOS to interface with hardware like that.
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You are 100% correct. I have been using these devices since N900 for a reason and there has always been some workaround to be able do what you need, but now things have changed and Bluetooth is something that I need.
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Or maybe one day they add keyboard to their lockers. In Czech republic company Zásilkovna (Packeta) had also only BT-operated parcel boxes but this year it changed, they start to add keyboard to their parcel boxes so now can be used code from SMS 
Yes of course I would prefer that. But I had 6 days to collect my parcel.
Just the opposite in Germany. DHL seems to move towards boxes without display, keyboard, and code scanner. Just bluetooth.
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Customers complained to Zásilkovna that BT connection isn’t sometimes reliable, is needed smartphone, too complicated for seniors etc. Boxes other companies (Alzabox, Rohlik point etc.) have normally box with display+keyboard so people are used to boxes with display+keyboard and sometimes when they don’t have time are share code with their partner or children to pick the parcel from box. And in this style Zásilkovna now present it (able to share code with partner, easier for seniors)
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there’s only one response to that: complain, complain, complain
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… and urge DHL to provide a native SFOS app
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for me it suffices if they provide only those stations with a barcode scanner
Edit: I also don’t get why I need an app for a service that worked for 100 years without the use of any computer
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True (and I fully agree). However, having DHL providing a native SFOS app would be great (although I do not expect that this happens under the given circumstances)
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The argument with new customers is irrelevant atm. Jolla need BUSINESS customers. Small Normalo-user from the street will never be Jolla customers, because the dont need it. They are happy with iphone and android.
But Jolla can be a small niche alternative for people who are Linux- and IT affine, who value freedom and privacy. And Jolla need business cases to survive. To sell SailfishOS licences for 25,- EUR can be only additional business model.
Jolla can impliment blutooth in Alien Dalvik only in one condition:
One business customer will pay for the development or if there will be a business case, where the business customer say: “I will buy SailfishOS for my product/hardware, when Bluetooth will work in Android”.
In this case Jolla will implement it and we, as community can profit from it.
Development cost money. Somebody need to pay for it.
But it will not happen to serve potential “new” customers who don’t buy Jolla because no Bluetooth or no NFC in Alien Dalvik.
SailfishOS is not and will never be a third Eco-System like IOS/Android. But it is and it will be a small alternative for those who care.
Well small business and middle-class business brings money too. There are thousands of small and middle-class companies who can live from a niche market. No need to try get a piece of cake from Apple or Google. Jolla will get a piece of another cake
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i would say: If a person permanently needs a second phone with him to survive (e.g. pay public transport tickets, shopping, parking lots), because this apps (or the single point of failure like BankID app) is not running without bluetooth support, than SailfishOS becomes just obsolete.
And of course this person should blame the institutions for that, but nevertheless he needs a working solution until the government or a world company is reacting on his inquiry.
And this could be a real differentiation for sailfish also regarding other real foss phones with postmarketos or other os with e.g. plasma mobile. If I see the current status of plasma mobile (currently using it on my tablet) with waydroid, than the question of Sailfishs future is in my mind immediatly. And don’t get me wrong, I’m a supporter from day 1 with 4+ licenses in my family.
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The question is how Jolla can fix that? How can Jolla fix that the institutions support either Googled Android or IOS ? Jolla simply can’t fix that.
I have also 2 phones (second phone is an iPhone from the Work), but i wouldn’t say i couldn’t survive without it. Well, some things would not work, but it wouldn’t be life-critical.
BTW: My wife is one of the last persons using Nokia 205 Candybar mobile. No apps at all… Somehow he survived until 2024
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Why then not going Ubuntu Touchs way, and do crowdfunding for the function. F. ex. 10.000 € for Bluetooth. At first check if the sum is realistic, and then search a developper who would be ready to do some work in that direction. AlienDalvik already has vast functions, what is missing is the part connecting SFOS bluetooth with Android bluetooth, if it was possible connecting other parts of Android and SFOS why wouldn’t Bluetooth be possible. The question is just which amount of work it would mean…
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Because serious companies doesn’t do crowdfunding. Jolla already tried crowdfunding, and guess what happened? It was pain in the ass all the 10 years after it failed. Ubuntu Touch is a small group of enthusiast, which have no company behind them, they have nothing to worry when things goes wrong. They risk nothing. As a company who do real business you need a business case, you need sign contracts with all the juristical shit: Terms, risks, costs etc, etc… So crowdfunding is not a solution for this case, unfortunately.
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I’m not stating that Jolla should save the world but:
In some countries (like Sweden) it is hard to avoid some apps. E.g. I need to use BankID 5 to 10 a day to authorise either swish payments (something like paypal), credit card payments or to login to something (like the bank account or reading mails from the authorities). One simple use case are bus or train tickets. At most stations you can not buy tickets outside the app (and with that bankid to authorise the payment), so you need to use it or do not travel or buy a car.
And you are right, why not using Ubuntu Touch? As I said, I’m using Plasma Mobile 6 on OpenSUSE on a daily basis together with waydroid on my tablet. It’s impressive what they have achieved in the last years. An up to date software stack, full blown linux system, convergance, complete FOSS (if you buy e.g. a libre phone). So what would be Sailfishs USPs compared to that in the future, if not a better (I say not 100% guarenteed) support of critical Android apps?
So the summary: I like Sailfish, I’m worried about it’s future and from my personal customer perspective I see a chance for USPs there.
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I understand your pain. We in Germany overslept the Digitalization. The most authorities send computer-printed letters delivered with the Deutsche Post. Since a couple of years we can do some tasks online. For Authorisation you need German ID-Card (Personalausweis) or Resident Card (Aufenthalts-Titel). As an reader you can use USB-NFC-Reader or your Smartphone. If you do not have both of this - you are forced to do anything live (if you wake up early enough to get an online-appointment). 
Children in Schools get the same black and white worksheets copied on bad paper on a very bad Xerox. The same shit was the case for me in the 90’s…Nothing has changed so far…
I don’t know who is on the better side - we in Germany, with poor working service, or you in Scandinavic Countries, who had the Digitalization 20 years ago but is forced now to use proprietary services…
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Please, back on topic. Use separate topic for non related answers.
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Actually I’m German and live for 3 years also in Sweden now. So I can definetly agree on your statements. And actually that’s why I can also observe a changed behaviour by myself:
In Germany I left my work phone (iOS) at home, when I have been not at work. Here in Sweden I carry it around with me all the time, because I now, that I will need it at one point of time during the day.
And than the question is: If I have it around with me all the time and using it especially for those services, where I want to have as much privacy as possible (e.g. payments), what is than the value of my Sailfish phone, if I’m just using it for reading mails? (I’m exaggerating at least a little bit).
But it is also a chance for Sailfish: My willingness to pay for an improvement is high, because I have no other way. I can not avoid it and most likely neither the Swedish state nor my bank will react to my concern. And of course I will not achieve 100% of privacy, but using a linux phone with only critical apps in an android container and leaving my spy phone at home on private journeys, would improve my situation by far. And that is something I can do, if there has been a technical solution for it. Thus paying money for it every month is it worth for me.
And with that I follow filip.ks advice and stop to elaborate further on this.
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