Plea for official statement from Jolla

General
#23

As employees of a company owned by the Russian Putin government, I believe the Jolla staff is in need to make a statement showing solidarity with the victims of Putin’s war. As you can see from the Jetbrains statement, this can be done without any agressive sentence about Russia or Putin and was even possible for people which are much more bounded to Russia.

Besides that, I highly disbelief Jolla will be able to continue “their current strategy” under the sactions from both sides anyway. When Russia is excluded from SWIFT, they’re doomed.

#25

“… Minister of Communications Nikolai Nikiforov, was searching for a platform to be utilized in building their own digital society …”

If the “own digital society” = “Russia Today” or “TRUTH Social”, then it is a very tragical weapon of disinformation.

Article : “Russia trusts in Aurora OS”

Link : Cases - Sailfish OS

#27

I think you worded your question well and I think it is good to post it here. I just didn’t want this thread to derail into a political fight. So my statement wasn’t against you, but against others potentially coming into this thread and derailing it (which happens sometimes on this forum). Sorry that I didn’t word that clearly enough!

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#28

I agree. There is no need for political fight here ever and especially now. I encourage to discuss here only the topic of the business company’s responsibility for it’s customers to be transparent in critical moments or not.

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#30

In the moment maybe it’s better not to talk too much. Also I’m sure Jolla will do their best, so let them in peace in this hard times. Whatever Jolla says about the / in this situation, it will make exactly nothing better.

I wish Jolla the best and I’m hoping that peace comes back soon!

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#32

Saying people are powerless is saying “states dont exist”.
Where do you think Russia gets the power from - its the same from everyone.
Do not make a mistake - Europe has not engaged in the war, as Ukraine is not in EU.
An attack on any EU state would most likely evolve very quickly into very different result.
Two world wars in the genes. Not a wasp nest you want to kick.

Anyhow, war is always the worst option. Id assume at least a note of support for the civil population would be probably acceptable for Jolla, just as many more Russian companies have done already.

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#34

Edited into while you were typing. I support this initiative.
If you dont, its ok. Dont worry :slight_smile:

EDIT : it would, however, interest me how it comes Russia invaded (but perhaps its for another thread).
Meaninig, the current Ukrainian president got voted into presidency thorugh a sovranist party, right?

EDIT2 : Its also true that Jolla, at the moment, is getting traction on other markets. That might have an impact on the share split as well.

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#35

If I understand your statement on the power of people and the existence of states correctly, the people of Russia or Ukraine must have something to do with it.
:slight_smile:

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#36

A clue about SFOSes future :wink: …

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#37

What is the difference between the situation before and after a statement from a software company in Finland on a war in Ukraine?

Such statement is necessary personaly for me, just to know who’s side Jolla takes. I have explained why I asked the question publicly.

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#38

Maybe the next community meeting will bring some answers …

#39

shouldn’t we just leave politics to politicians and not corporation? as it never ends well for corp. when they start to get involve to other stuff

also if you have personally a problem with Jolla involvement with/in Russia, then that’s your issue (also why stop with Jolla?)

When it comes to sanctions, we have to see what kind they will be in the end (doubt they will any big/meaningful, for one reason or another)…and should Jolla had and thoughts/position about this? …not really, why? because it wont matter, as Jolla is small company and Russia would just keep developing AuroraOS with or without Jolla

PS. also I like to remind everyone that China has been eyeing on Taiwan (and depending how this Russia-Ukraine thing goes, could determine Taiwans faith)

oh well…c’est la vie

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#40

Jolla has no longer active business or exports to Russia, the business was ramped down during 2021. We continue to offer the independent European OS for all who want freedom of choice and value digital independence. In parallel, Jolla is growing in particular rapidly in the automotive sector, and it formed already significant part of our 2021 revenues.

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Stop Sailfish Support for Russia?
#41

This account is 33 mins old, colour me sceptical…

A trust level leader account.

#42

It did already matter to me before Putin started attacking Ukraïne. I always felt a bit uneasy about this.
This is not about the Russian people, but about the regime only. Unfortunately it was never clear to me how Jolla was/is invloved in the Russian government, what relationship there is and if it has any impact on the development of the OS. I supposed it was allright, but I didn’t know for sure.
The latest action against Ukraïne has all the charateristics of a classic war with no other purpose than expanding Russian power over another independent country that just wants to be a democracy.
With sanctions coming into effect, what will happen to the coöperation of Jolla with the Russian government? What will happen if Swift will be blocked, or mastercard/visa?
Many companies in the West are trading with Russia. Can they still be neutral? These are serious questions. It would be good if Jolla gave some clarity about it. Anyhow, let’s hope this war will be over soon.

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#43

I’m sure if this really was an official Jolla statement they wouldn’t need to create a totally new account to do it. Even their CEO already has his own account already, so why would they need to.

#44

It has trust level “leader” on the profile page. This is a discourse feature, so the person definately has access to the discourse admin. It’s an official statement.

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#45

Did not see that… Will edit my post.

#49

Sometimes you are involved by not making a choice.

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#53

the OP might first want to ask whether Jolla is financially viable without its Russian partnership.

i understand the Jolla is finally in the glorious position of turning a profit, and i’m hoping for a long life of updates for the Xperia 10 III i intend to buy shortly.

if they are; great. if not, i’m not sure i’m willing to see SFOS disappear on pure principle.

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