As we have stated earlier, Jolla has for some time been looking for a shareholding structure that would provide a balanced ownership structure and significantly reduce Russian ownership. The International Investment Bank has been involved in promoting this arrangement. In the new situation, it is clear that the company has no future without a complete divestment of Russian ownership. The company is still working hard to find an ownership structure that will allow this to happen.
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Still, I’d be very curious to know how many users would be interested in participation.
Could we make a poll, maybe?
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Good luck, Jolla team, I hope you will find a way out, i.c. new investors, a new policy! Sailfish is too nice to let go.
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I fully agree, and having lost both Nokia and Ericsson - who not that long ago were the two largest mobile technology companies in the world - there’s a desperate need for a European hardware platform as well. We are now far beyond the point where the phones in our pockets became mandatory for participation in society - if we want that society to remain open, democratic and accountable, so must the devices with which we interact with it.
I am currently working in Sweden, which I’ve always regarded as a forward thinking and technologically advanced society with a high computer literacy. But I am continually dismayed, shocked even, to discover how completely they have given up control of essential functions to Google, Microsoft and (to a lesser extent) Apple. Everything from buying bus and train tickets, accessing your bank account, voting, filing tax returns, even giving money to beggars, requires that you own and operate a device running one of their operating systems. I do not, and consequently I am locked out of many basic services. And whenever I ask for help from a representative of these services the answer is always the same: “you can only do that through our app” - said with Orwellian certitude that I too, of course, have an Android device in my pocket.
If I could make one law, it would be that no essential public service should require closed source software to access it. How is it that the Swedish people accept that the only way of authenticating themselves is in the hands of a private company who are accountable only to their shareholders? This is obviously unacceptable today, and will be even more so tomorrow.
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The question is if all those three-letter secret services would want to have the third mobile platform that they’d need to separately cover when it comes to surveillance (for the sake of security of us all, of course). I am afraid that this is why those other mobile platforms that we all knew - Symbian, MeeGo, BlackBerry 10, and even Windows Phone - had to let go.
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i’m happy if Sailfish OS stays a community project for computer enthusiasts. So we have our peace from several kinds of commercial or observational intrusions.
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@cwo +10, thank you.
About laws, there should exist one other: the right to live without smartphone and keep the same rights as others.
About Jolla/freedom/openness/alternatives…
Let’s help! Wouldn’t we make a poll to see if/how many users would become a part, even small, of Jolla?
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Just saw this over on the Leste blog:
A couple of months ago we were made aware of the DAPSI project by our dear Michiel of NLnet. DAPSI is one of the projects in the scope of the European Union’s Next Generation Internet initiative and it offers funding for projects that research data portability and privacy solutions to give people better control over their personal data.
Seeing this, we realised that Maemo Leste could be a good fit. We managed to write an application and apply to the open call just before the deadline.
A month or so later, we were contacted by the DAPSI team to tell us that our application passed and that we are going to receive funding for the milestones we chose to apply with!
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Corruption often seems the obvious answer
You live in a fairy-tale where countries are ran by representatives and everything is shiny.
Truth is, this is only a facade for people to behave (with some truth to it, but only on the levels that are allowed by a bigger force).
Small countries like Sweden do not and can not conduct their own policy when it concerns bigger questions. So they behave like collective West (i.e. US/5 eyes) tells them. And the West mastered this ability to raise-educate-promote useful people, remove inconvenient people, corrupt and sometimes kill others.
And in no way EU can have their own mobile OS that can threaten ios/android. Best EU can have is toy-OSes like Jolla. Although, I’m pretty sure J has only 2-3 years to live if they change ownership.
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States are legalized thug gangs with a monopoly on violence. All they do is theft.
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Big ships turn slowly.
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@DrDweeb, @remote
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”. 
It is just too convenient not to care or educate oneself.
Did anyone else notice that we went OT?
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Yes, exactly, I bounce on this to say something new about the Topic 
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Are there other users than me who would participate in a (tiny) part of Jolly ownership?
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Although I like the idea of community development, I don’t think this can ever be sufficient for creating a real alternative to Android and iOS. Sailfish will never be suitable for ‘everyone’ if there is no company and no business behind it. It will stay a niche product as it is now.What a pity for such a nice OS! Why not give non-tech savvy people a chance to choose for a third option? Sailfish shouldn’t become sectarian or a hobby product for developers. It should be suitable for common people: your aunt, your parents, the nurse, the teacher. Therefore a proper business is needed with a plan, with progress, with investment, e.g. angel money, subsidies from the EU and/or a sustainable paying system.
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I’m Swedish. I run Suse Linux since 2001, SFOS since 2014 (before that Symbian on a Nokia N8), and I don not have “mobilt Bank-ID”. And I totally agree with what you say @cwo . If you don’t have “mobilt Bank-ID”, which runs only on IOS and Android, it is (very) difficult to get anything crucial done. However, in many cases you can still get things done by finding a form on the web page (often well hidden), print it, fill it out, mail it, and wait a couple of days/weeks. But, just to mention two examples, insurance companies and telecommunication companies have no customer service any more, they only serve the shareholders, while the customers are supposed to manage everything themselves through self service, which requires “mobilt Bank-ID”. It’s horrible 
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my 2FA app runs fine with Aliendalvik + MicroG. My banking I do only on the computer and I’m not crazy to trust in Android for the safety of my bank account access.
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Hi Larsmaria, I’m curious about how the mobilt Bank-ID works. If you need to have a phone to use it for XYZ services, isn’t there a discrimination against people who dont have smartphones ? And thus, isn’t there a consumer organisation fighting for this ?
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I’d like to add to that discussion, but in another thread, please.
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This is not the case. I’ve had businesses with many hundreds of employs running only Linux/BSD. Although I have a test win10/11 box (on once a quarter) and I still have macOS 6-9 running (I HATE > 10, bsd rip-offs), I’ve been almost 100% linux on the desktop, and certainly on the server, since 2006.
Obviously, Android is just a bunch of trash (jwt this and that ripped from sun by google long ago) on top of linux. The problem is that you can sell trash
One of the reasons that I like working on Sailfish is that it uses a well adapted QT dev. env. Even if you hate it’s age, it’s still fun. And some of the apps I touch on, ie. fahrplan2, will compile for everything. A lot of apps for mobile are made with QT. They just need to package for SFOS
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