Jolla Phone update - lights on, technical bits and the schedule

I assume you are talking about sfos apps and the overall UI smoothness where sfos can perform even with much older hardware.
Because with Android apps the difference to me between 10 II, C2 and 10 III is huge.

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Did they upped the animation speeds on 5.x???

Up to 4.6 at least SFOS felt sluggish even on the fastest HW it ever got to run.

No, sfos animations were always on the slow side but it was always buttery smooth for me from J1 up to C2.
Small exception the C2 that it doesn’t feel great using it, but that might be because i literally don’t like anything about this phone.

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Until this is fixed to the end user it will feel worst than a 10 year old low end android device. The interaction is horrid.

Can you provide visual example?

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If SFOS doesn’t feel sluggish to you i don’t know what i can provide. Get an android or apple phone and swipe around or scroll (menus and stuff not the browser). You will get it i believe.

Sure, but I believe you are confusing slow animation speed with sluggishness.
I wouldn’t mind animation speed to be configurable, but is this really the problem coming from Android/ios?
For me a visual issue would be the app opening animation (and time to be honest) with the square loading on the main screen giving me last century vibes like most Linux phones.

Does it annoy me when I think about it? Sure.
Do I care much about it in everyday use? Not really.

Same for animations speed. If the phone can’t open apps instantly I can’t care less since I have to wait for the app to load anyway.

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I am not talking performance here. Its about how the phone reacts to your input. It always feels delayed. From tapping to scrolling to whatever you interact with feels slow.

Also. I am with you on the app opening animation. It must get the boot. Its bad.

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That also needs proper hardware even if software gets optimized for faster animations and input.
Let’s be realistic here. J2 soc that should be one of the fastest on officially supported sfos devices, is a soc that ultra budget sub 150€ devices use. And that display from a different decade doesn’t look like it’s going to have a flagship level sampling rate.

But I believe if user base grows and money starts flowing again, hardware will get better (because it gets cheaper anyway) and software from Jolla’s side will adapt.

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I don’t want to oversell the Dimensity 7100 SOC, but one of the few phones using it so far, is the Infinix Note Edge, which according to GSM Arena is “about 170 EUR” and the Tecno Pova Curve 2 (with an admittedly larger battery) for “about 260 EUR” and even a Honor 600 lite with better camera, battery etc is still using a 7100 “elite” (with the same ancient GPU) for 320 EUR.

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Still, my point is that this is not going to be a powerhouse that will enable Jolla to make sfos blazing fast.
But anyway, one step at a time.

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Yes, it is certainly not a power house. But CPU Performance should be at least half decent. The GPU is ancient though. I might be wrong but I expect that the CPU should be good enough for snappy overall performance as long as you stay clear of any demanding games.

OS performance is determined more by hardware optimisations, and less by hardware performance - and the Sony Xperia 10 III is an example of that. On the other hand, you can have blazingly fast hardware, but if the OS doesn’t use hardware acceleration & does everything in software, it can be quite slow to use.

So my main hope is that Jolla will spend a lot of time optimising SFOS for the new phone’s hardware - maybe not when us early adopters first get it, but over the months after that.

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New Jolla Phone 2026_camera performance_proprietary firmware

Hi Jolla community,

quick question on the exciting new phone coming up:

What about proprietary firmware for the camera?

That was always the issue with Sony phones.

Does the new phone utilize the full potential of the camera(s) ?

Thanks and regards

M.

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If you don’t get an answer I guess that’s a good question for the community meeting.

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I know this is an old comment. But there’s no notification that the Jolla will have rcs right? From my limited understanding this is not an easy undertaking for a small company. I’ve been following another small company since I purchased one of their devices and I remember reading on a thread that it is quite difficult if not close to impossible for them to implement RCS.

Welcome to my world… :wink:

RCS support is a thing I keep asking for quite a while now, if you search the forum you’ll find at least two other specific threads on thst topic. Up to now there’s no official word by Jolla on this. But I hope we will see it one day…

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The stated reason there’s been little progress getting MMS working better is that it’s “going away”. Given that logic, I assume they must be working on what’s billed as the replacement.

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Source for that claim?

I take this knowledgeable, insightful, and most importantly better-informed-than-me user’s post at face value:

Although I guess the exact phrase wasn’t “is going away” but rather “is a dying technology,” but I’ve slept many times since that post last year.