Jolla Phone on WSocial

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Hi Jolla and SailfishOS team,

I was wondering if you’d be interested in joining the WSocial community.

If you’re already present on AT Protocol, say on bluesky you can request to have your handle transferred over.

Why, WSocial is the new all made in Europe social network where all users are verified as humans. It aims to be the main voice on European matters and has at heart (as you do) European tech sovereignty.

I’ve personally already mentioned your phone as a good EU alternative but it would be great if your team could reply to queries or simply post info and updates.

if you’re interested let me know and I shall pass it on to W management.

WSocial is live testing and will launch in January next year. For any users wanting to join our community, please request access on the following link:

Many thanks.

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Nice, I registered my account a week ago (round about) but also wrote wsocial that it would be nice if they come over to sailfish for a european collaboration. Nice to see you here.

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Please note!! WSocial seems quite desperate to attract users probably for funding reasons. This is a form of advertising.
But be aware that if you join WSocial, some of your personal details will be publicly visible on the internet: your full name, nationality and approximate birthday :face_with_raised_eyebrow:. And WSocial is not open source. They forked ATproto and went closed-source.

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I also support the “please not in a million years”-option. There’s been so much controversy about the platform that I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone, even for business profiles - let alone individual users (Hello! Official ID only registration! Hard pass!)

Elena Rossini has written a lot about the issues with W Social:

Also what @airdew mentioned, “Public by design issue”:

So, for now, I’m really happy that @Jolla chose Mastodon / ActivityPub instead of the dumpsterfire… sorry… W Social. :wink:

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Nothing that couldnt be fixed and better than any us alternatives. But totally agree - future is … we will see and fediverse way to go. But all european efforts are in first good to have…
And I think that personal details are publicly available is not that bad because of a lot of irresponsible users… Check out x where people do racism, blaming and so on only due to they are there with a username
Yeah, buts that was happening often - immediately warnings and stereotypes… Let us step in and see what’s possible
See it from a normal ios / android user who doesn’t care about what he is gonna share with us big tech without knowin

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Isn"t Mastodon a good place for Jolla and the community, next to the forum?

A minimum should be for other social platforms that they have a native client. And then comes questions about audience and users…

Precense comits you to do marketing and answering questions, and perhaps sales will be very limited…

And honestly… I’ve never seen a more shitty service.

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This, and the platform rewards you with all the “hot takes” and controversial posts that get likes an shares.

Years ago when I still had a Facebook profile I was there with my real name, because that’s what “everyone did”. I’m here with a nickname, I’m in Mastodon with a nickname - but that name has been with me for 20+ years. It doesn’t define how I talk or interact. But I understand the temptation to shout terrible things, because of the anonymity provided. It doesn’t justify the actions.

And comparing W Social (ATProto) and Mastodon (ActivityPub), the platforms are designed differently. Mastodon was built by and for the minorities, the tools are such that keep the users safe (well, not always, but it’s easier that in X/Twitter for example).

I left X as soon as Musk bought it, should have left earlier, as it was turning in to shout and run and bully kind of platform.

Sorry about the rant. :smiley:

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First its totally ok that all of us have an opinion about the service and so on. But don’t let us make the mistake to refuse things before they really start. That a european initiative, despite what we think about, is going to happen and is aware of jolla is in first a good thing. Everything else we have to see what the future brings. So we should see where it goes and how we can shape it…
For me at first is important establish alternatives. EU regulations are far from perfect but better in any way compared to the us ones and what they are doin with the data of EU citizens…

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Mastodon is European and has existed for years.

WSocial is an actual, literal scam, as pointed out by @raketti above, or here. Certainly don’t look any further into one of the company’s advisors mentioned here. It’s Big Tech and intelligence agencies all the way down. There’s also a reason why it only has a German Wikipedia article, and half of said article is dedicated to criticisms: W Social – Wikipedia

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Interesing move trying to get privacy minded people to join a platform where you need to hand over all your info and name.

I somehow think this post will continue to be flamed, please see yourself out with your surveilance state app, with all due respect.

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It’s sad to see this strange witch-hunt has reached this forum. I am not an employ of W, just an early user. It’s remarkable that instead of uniting to ensure European tech sovereignty has a chance to thrive a bunch of people, for reasons known only to them, have decided to boycott someone’s attempt to build something different that would be of benefit to the community at large.

Still, I’m not here to enter into a debate. I passed on my message to the Jolla and Sailfish exec team. Should they wish to have their presence on W they’re welcome. Those of you who do are welcome and those who do not. Best regards.

This account will be deleted.

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Even if it wasn’t already clear that WSocial is a techbro scam, you accidentally gave yourself away in your first post:

if you’re interested let me know and I shall pass it on to W management.

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I guess you have not read yourself up on what Sailfish OS is all about when you write:

It is a privacy driven mobile platform and my understanding is that it is fundamentally different from what W are doing.

I personally stopped my registration when I saw what W asked from me to register an account. So European or not…

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Thread is a good example why others doin the job and we rely on their tech… So yes stay in niche and gather for perfect xyz…

Uuhhh privacy and have to push my real name… Scaring… Maybe sometimes its not bad look through the eyes of the majority who relies on the us big tech… If it should ever come to a big EU tech, be aware, that there will be compromises we have to accept.. Everything else will stay in a niche I guess

So lets close this thread…

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I am here with my full name by choice. There is a difference.

Click on my avatar to get to my profile.

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Lets close. you don’t have to use wsocial…

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Well, this is why I brought up Mastodon/ActivityPub, it’s European, well tested, widely used and gathers as little information from the user as possible. ATProto isn’t European (well, originally anyway), the positive side is that it’s open source, so Mr. Dorsey learned something, or made enough money not to care to profit anymore. :slight_smile: I have no idea about the information ATProto (BlueSky/WSocial) gathers and how it’s used and/or sold. What I find funny is that BlueSky doesn’t have any trackers on their front page, but for some reason WSocial does, at least according to Privacy Badger. So points to BlueSky on that. :+1:

I don’t want to, nor was my intention to, start any witch hunt, so apologies if my post came out too aggressive.

Personally, yes - and no. I have a unique name - no other person has the same name in the world, I know this is not a reason to be anonymous, but for me it brings a little bit of comfort that my name is not all over the web. I really don’t like the kind of “I’ll accept this because I have nothing to hide”-mentality. Once you give your information, it’s no backsies situation, can’t get it back, even though websites do say that “We and our 2349 partners value your privacy”. :slight_smile:

I did make a compromise, I left the major social media platforms, left all my “friends” and that was a good decision. I still have my friends, not every 400+ of them, but the ones that really matter. Some people may need it, for example Mastodon isn’t necessarily good if you have a business and want to reach out to millions of people - it’s not made for that, and my opinion is that it never should be business driven. It can be an alternative.

Everyone should find the platform they feel comfortable being in and weigh the pros and cons. For me it’s Mastodon, and I admit I do have tendency to react more with emotion than reason when it comes to so called big tech. If people want to use X, by all means. If they want to be on the first wave in WSocial, go ahead. It’s just not everyone’s cup of tee. Others feel safer “in the niche” and that’s fine too.

But I guess what I wanted to say is I’m sorry for sounding too aggressive and one sided, wasn’t the intention.

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