Improving SFOS apps design and helping with design

[ichthyosaurus]

@Mister_Magister

Why? Why would you do that? Read what you wrote “file browser”. What is it’s purpose? Playing videos and music? Then it would be called media player not file browser. File browser’s function is to browse files. Like my nanofiles. If you want to view photo or video, launch photo/video viewer app. […] Keep single purpose of the app, if it s file browser then let it browse files amen. Let video player handle video playing.

Wow, no need to get all worked up about it. I guess you misread my “proper” up there. I don’t want to include a fully fledged media player in there; just something for a quick preview with the ability to see the length and seek to a position. I already implemented a video preview but it’s still a bit too simple for my taste. For everything else, you can open a file externally (xdg-open).

@Mister_Magister

I hate that in sfos apps that file browser suddenly cooks pancakes, like what is that?!

I don’t quite get what you mean. Kari’s / my File Browser just browses files and gives you previews or some extra info; as you said: “Just like on desktop.” Where do you see that kind of feature creep?

@Mister_Magister

there are and it’s called silica. You can literally copy paste default configuration and have pretty app.

True, but there’s no place yet to collect more content-oriented components like the one’s we discussed.

@Mister_Magister

yet somehow people decide to make ugly apps on purpose. I don’t get it

Me neither; maybe people are just lazy and don’t want to read the docs. Or they don’t have an eye for aesthetics, or they just don’t care…

@Mister_Magister

The one i have in picoplayer is pretty neat and simple to use

So another candidate for a collection :).

@Mister_Magister

Not only components but code/pages examples.

Absolutely!

@Mister_Magister

I would add my examples there too and combined with this thread and my blog (i would put any sources used in blog there too) it could be another step in pretty apps evangelisation

That would be great!

[Mister_Magister]

@ichthyosaurus

I don’t want to include a fully fledged media player in there;

then yeah my player is not what you want.

@ichthyosaurus

Where do you see that kind of feature creep?

Some file managers have text editors… and some web browsers have file managers staring intensively at webcat and all of leszek’s creations

@ichthyosaurus

maybe people are just lazy

no no, if they were lazy then creation called spaceport wouldn’t happen. Go and have a look at it and tell me in eyes that it isn’t ugly on purpose

@ichthyosaurus

So another candidate for a collection :).

no wait i confused apps, i was talking about musikilo. that one has tab layout. look how dead simple it is https://github.com/Michal-Szczepaniak/Musikilo/blob/master/Musikilo/qml/pages/Main.qml

@ichthyosaurus

That would be great!

hook me up with invite or i should create it?

[ichthyosaurus]

@Mister_Magister

then yeah my player is not what you want.

Ah, well, okay.

@Mister_Magister

Some file managers have text editors… and some web browsers have file managers staring intensively at webcat and all of leszek’s creations

That… is a bit over the top, indeed :’)

@Mister_Magister

no no, if they were lazy then creation called spaceport wouldn’t happen. Go and have a look at it and tell me in eyes that it isn’t ugly on purpose

Hmm… yeah. I’m sure that took a lot of work :(.

@Mister_Magister

i was talking about musikilo.

That is really simple! (Mine mostly adds support for multiple rows and special handling of horizontal layouts.)

@Mister_Magister

hook me up with invite or i should create it?

You should receive an email; here’s the new org: https://github.com/SFOS-Community-Components

If anyone has a better idea for the name I’m all in for renaming it! (The sooner the better.)

[Mister_Magister]

@ichthyosaurus

If anyone has a better idea for the name I’m all in for renaming it!

Call it pretty sfos and it should be enough

[ichthyosaurus]

Ah, nice one! Here we go: https://github.com/Pretty-SFOS

[Mister_Magister]

Let’s license everything under my beloved WTFPL or Beerware if you want beer

[ichthyosaurus]

I’m more a fan of GPL / FDL but for the moment I’d say let’s keep the licenses as they are. We’re not yet creating new content, just collecting stuff that is already licensed one way or the other…

[ichthyosaurus]

@Mister_Magister

First Jammy

hecc it’s nicest app yet but there isn’t much in it either.

Yet ;). I just don’t have the time to give all my projects the love they deserve…

@Mister_Magister

When u click genres etc thingy on main page, secondary page with same thing opens anyway so i would just add entry pick music or something like that

… with the tag you clicked on already selected. You can just swipe right to accept it or you can add more tags to your search. If that wasn’t obvious, I should change something…

@Mister_Magister

straight up use the second page only cause that thing on first page is not sfosy at all and it’s counter intuitive

Actually, I think it’s quite simple and gives a nice flow when you’re using the app. Have to think about it.

@Mister_Magister

Onto the todolist. you attacked page on left and right and it was almost first thing i’ve asked how to do when first trying to create app and everyone told me not to do it. So i’ll repeat, dont do it. It’s super counter intuitive. Use tab layout instead if you must or just move left/right pages to pulldown menu (there is enough space for that). Rest is acceptable (hard to think today)

Right, I’ll make tabs.

@Mister_Magister

Onto MeteoSwiss. Could you make graphs bit taller? numbers go onto eachother so it looks ugly. Other than that pretty damn good job sir.

Thanks :). The graphs are a bit complicated. I already fixed many issues and it finally works most of the time. I’ll have another look on it.

@Mister_Magister

Onto dictionary. I know what you were trying to do but i would go back to page header and put dictionary switcher to pulldown menu.

I think that’s solved in a nice way in the original Wunderfitz. (This reminds me of my pull request upstream. My package on Openrepos is terribly outdated.)

@Mister_Magister

In general damn good work sir almost no issues

Thank you :)!

[JSEHV]

For those developers who are still not happy with their app icon design, struggle to get it into the look and feel of Sailfish OS or are just not having fun designing an app icon, feel free to reach out.

You can always include me and the request in a comment on GitHub, if you have your app source available there.

Examples of my app icon designs

[808]

Please find a way to make hanging the phone easier, meaning phone calls. There are times when you have more than one app page up and yes, I know if you down swipe it will show all the apps that are open and you can select the phone page and end the call… but maybe a diagonal swipe that will bring up the phone page that will allow you to hang up faster . One swipe vs more than one swipe.

I know when I am driving and need to hang up the phone things become a real hassle.

Thanks