I'm sorry, but I need to leave Sailfish due to too big phones

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Hello everybody,

Lately I was super absent, work, personal and other projects stole my life, a little bit. Last few months (well, since end of 2024) the Sailfish OS in my Xperia xz2c decided to give me more and more troubles.

So I bought a mudita kompakt, sadly arrived yesterday and it will not work for me, because of that, I decided to brick my Xperia, and then restore to android to end with Lineage Os + MicroG. Seems that the first main problem (battery) won’t be anymore for the following time. Which brings me to the reason of this post.

I will leave this amaizing OS, I really loved this almost 4 years I used it (and I think a good proof are the two apps I created), but everyday I was having more problems, and since the bought of the electric car last year, not having a reliable android (Waydroid was not working well for me) was hitting hard.

About my apps, well, I will be happy to accept P/Rs, and try to maintain it, I still have the hope that at some moment a good official device will be an small device, which is a good reason to try to keep the apps up to date and working, but in the other side I was a little bit burned with the improvements that I was doing to the flight tracker, as every day I hate more javascript, and it was a full javascript.

I’ve got my eyes wet writting this post. But I feel like I needed to write it.

Thanks a lot to everybody contributing to Sailfish, and may Jolla be with us! (Again)

Jaume.

P.D.: I realise today that I didn’t receive updates, at least from old posts that I writte. Which means maybe I’ll take long time to reply. (feel free to send direct messages, if something is important)

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Stop buying shitty ports by jolla and all your problems will go away

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What do you mean with shitty ports by jolla? You mean the sailfish for xz2c?

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I tend to disagree to your eloquent argument based on the postings in this forum…

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While he does good work for the community, he may be overestimating himself and losing touch with reality.

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Now you know you shouldn’t have bought that electric car :stuck_out_tongue:

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Up to my Xperia 10 III I would have said @Mister_Magister is talking complete nonsense. But nowadays I get more and more the feeling, that the ported devices are on the same level as the official ports. Even so I can only speak for @piggz ports.

At the beginning with the official ports I was used to having nearly no flaws. But with the newer devices, there are more and more the same amount of flaws that some of the ports have. My Xperia 10 III for example, still is not officially supporting all cameras. This only works because of a patch - thanx @nephros).

The difference is that, the porters seem to be faster than Jolla - even so it seems to be that quite often Sony is the culprit. I have two Xperia 10 V surrounded by a big layer of dust. Yes in the meantime there is a flashable image. But there are still so many let-downs, that I decided, at the moment, it is not worth to flash them. Instead, I ordered a Volla Quintus (I already got one, but that had a hardware issue, so now I’m waiting for a replacement).

So while @Mister_Magister 's tone is often quite rude, in principle he is often right.

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Yeah, but my car had too many issues already, and I allways wished to have an electric car.

Still, I don’t regret buying my car, and if my life allowed me, I have in mind to try to do reverse engineering of the app, to extract how they connect with the car :slight_smile:

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Any particular reason not to use official ports?

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anything bigger than 5" for me is a tablet, not a phone. In fact, after 2 years with the xz2c, I still think is too big. (but at least with Sailfish was passable) The perfect size of a phone for me was the xz1 compact (or maybe smaller)

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But are there any smaller options with other OSes? I have the impression the Sony devices currently are at the compact end of the available spectrum

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Mine is also collecting dust for over a year now. We were told the port would be ready last year. It wasn’t. And now we get fewer and fewer announcements regarding it, as if Jolla tries to sweep it under the carpet.

I’m not mad about that it takes a bit longer. I’m mad about the way Jolla is communicating recently.

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So then as said ports might be the main problem.

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There is no other devices smaller than that. At least I didn’t found them. (well, now there is a unihertz, but then is a fully android with all the google shit) (and 0 custom roms)

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That is what was said in todays community meeting on the 10V status.

07:13:28 [ExTechOp] Is there any progress on the Sony Xperia 10V firmware / binary blobs update?
07:16:43 [rainemak] ExTechOp, Not too much to say. With newest blobs camera works but there are still work needed with GPS, NFC, sensors and VoLTE… And VoLTE is the tricky one. This due to that HIDL ↔ AIDL changes that happened same time.

The waiting game continues then…

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You didn’t say what the problems are with the xz2c…mine is still working fine, why not reflash it with the latest available image?

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I was just joking of course, no offense intended :slight_smile:

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Ah, yeah, well mainly 3 problems:

  1. Waydroid:
  • since more than one year ago, Sailfish decided that when Waydroid was on, there is no need to connect to the internet, meaning that if I was connected and start Waydroid everything fine, but once I loose my internet (wifi or data) then forget about internet. (I asked help here in the forum). I ended doing an small script that stopped the virtual network of waydroid for 30 seconds, that way I recover internet.
  • Sometimes Waydroid it didn’t wished to connect to the internet only for 3G, I needed to reboot
  1. (this one I was expecting was my phone, but after installing lineage is not) the battery consumtion seemed to be increasing over the time.
  • Right now I had less than 24h of battery having only Fehrnschreibe & whisperfish installed. Having the browser open it ended being like 4 hours to drop a battery
  • For reference, lineage with microG, in the same device, Was unplug yesterday afternoon, I still have 70% of the battery, and I installed most of the apps I need. (And configure them)
  1. Can be related to previous point, in the last months, time to time (really sporadically, like once per month) the phone decided to enter cooking mode. Which means, getting warm, warm, until the device auto shut down (or if I pick it in time, I stop it before the automatic)
  2. (added after edit) [This is not Xz2c, I expect] The My OTPs were not working, I tried with sailOtp and failAuth, in both cases I can create the Otp entry, but when I tried to use it, it didn’t work (at least in Gitlab and Github)

I had other issues, but don’t remember. In summary: When origially I had an uptime in the device of 3 to 4 weeks, I was in the last months, not getting more than 1 week, and I think the avg was in 3 or 4 days. And the apps I had installed were pretty stable since I installed sailfish at the begining.

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Failauth works for me with github

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It can be, in the Spanish Sailfish group I commented, and it was working sailotp for them, but for me, It was not working, I don’t know why.

The curios point was that when you register the otp in gitlab, requires to have introduce the otp generated, and this work, but next time I go to identify it doesn’t work anymore.