Well, as the title says, I’m loosing faith in the Sailfish OS and the Jolla C2. I loved the phone in it’s original working state. REALLY loved it. Yesterday the message app failed and today entering a new wifi address has also failed. I’m happy enough using terminals, but I really don’t see the point in preinstalled Jolla apps that don’t actually work and then having to debug/reconstruct unstable apps. Since the Jolla phone apps and Sailfish OS seem to be fragile I’m beginning to think I have invested and backed a company that at the end of the day sells products on the desire of people to escape the endoscopic Android and iPhone products, bit doesn’t actually deliver. If I’m wrong, cool. Tell me how to make this system work.
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I feel you. But this is still relevant for me at least:
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You’re absolutely right. That’s exactly the feeling: Jolla seems increasingly distant from its own community, especially when it comes to hardware choices for the so‑called Community Phone. It’s paradoxical: the strength of SailfishOS should lie in the very community that supports, tests, and improves it, yet we end up with decisions imposed from above, without any real dialogue with those who actually use these devices.
The result is fragile phones, system apps that stop working, and an ecosystem that doesn’t give the impression of wanting to grow in a serious way. It’s not enough to sell the promise of an alternative to Android and iOS: you need to listen to those who believe in it, who invest time and money, and who simply want a stable and coherent device.
And as if that weren’t enough, in my case the Jolla C2 left switched off for a few days in my bedside drawer ended up with a swollen battery, making it not only unusable but outright dangerous. This is unacceptable: a device meant for the community cannot turn into a physical risk for its owner.
Until Jolla changes its approach and truly starts involving its user base in crucial decisions, it will continue to lose trust and credibility.
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Too right. I was so pleased with the C2 initially, when it was stable, I was recommending it to Linux oriented friends. I guess I’m in the privileged position of being able to warn them off. Always nice to be able to help mates🤣
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It’s almost never black and white in the real life and in SFOS.
My C2 works great for a low cost phone and even better with each release.
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Friend of mine updated his Samsung phone to latest UI 8.0. After that the phone didn’t anymore accept the security code which had to be every couple of days. At this point he knew that phone would be locked soon. So he followed Samsung instruction to create backup of the phone and do factory reset. After that the phone only gave error message as he tried to re-apply the backup, which he couldn’t fix. Gave good vision that the system updates can be go very badly wrong even at big players. The latest update seems to have caused quite bad problems for some which hinders the usability. And those should be fixed asap. But my experience is from software that quite often version updates can cause unwanted problems and isn’t only problem with Jolla
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It’s f* BS when a device does not follow my instructions. I know this feeling too.
You has entered this forum the day before yesterday for publishing your problems with SMS and WIFI. You are welcome. What is your experience with all the other features and with this nice community?
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>new bugs hatching every day
>Jolla C2
You kinda did it to yourself? So many signs that C2 is NOT a good port but nobody listens. People abandon xperias and c2 and have great time with unofficial ports like fairphone or oneplus6. But you just don’t want to listen do you? It’s not sfos problem, its the ports problem and official ports are not good at all due to garbage tier hardware
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Thanks chatgpt, you’re absolutely right, learn to reply to the proper guy though
I don’t know english, i wrote in italian and make translation with AI (anyway, not chatgpt). It’s a crime?
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attention on identical post no. 3 or 4 or…
I guess this is AI spam.
AI imho should be forbidden on this forum and spammers should be permanently blocked.
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Do you say to me? I’m not a BOT…
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That makes you repeated posts of one story all over the place even worse. Welcome to my ignore list.
Updates can go bad, indeed. But you’d try to fix it, no?
What bothers me here is the lack of reaction, like if nobody cared.
Last example : AAS restart loop experienced by many. It’s a major piece of their added value which they managed to break.
The constant strategy is swalow it/deal with it, which is a legitimate criticism target.
Which brings me to the reason of my post: to remind that criticism is good- and, even when biased, it’s still better than the imposed lack of thereof.
It hurts to see here the Ministry of Truth in action, argumentum ad hominem and useless rudeness.
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Unfortunately i agree, often solutions goes to the terminal, and that is annoying.
I dont get it, people use ssh all the time?
But i am pretty happy with SFOS, and hopefully i will be able to fully migrate soon, only wallet and bank missing.
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I agree with you but if I am ecpected to filter criticism out of a pile of right wing conspiracy theories and personal insults I rather prefer the usual suspects to be stoped from polluting this forum.
Nobody got ever flagged for pointing out that something doesn’t work as expected.
Nobody got ever flagged for having an opinion.
Free speech does not mean you can say anything.
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The Xperia 10 III is fairly decent (my daily driver), 10 II seems to work as well (using it as secondary phone to play around). The C2 seems to be a different story; slow hardware, to large form factor for my needs (well, technically not a bug) and GPS is unreliable. I bought it to get the official device, it is collecting dust at home.
The problem with third party ports is VoLTE, many don’t support it, and without it, you can’t use your smartphone as a phone in many networks.
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