Frustration with sailfish forums (missing) structure

I’m a long time sailfish user and feel very frustrated with this forum, because it only has flat threads where you have to scroll through all the messages. I find that very frustrating, because it feels like the important stuff gets lost in the heap. As a result I don’t participate as much as I would. IMO it hinders the community.

Another pain point is the message list view. It only has the number of messages and when the last message was added. I’d like to see the thread creator, the creation date and who wrote the last message to be able to decide if the thread is interesting to me. Standard features for a power user, i believe.

I just wanted to get this off my chest
Cheers

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I second partly. While I love the existing structure for reading, writing and browsing around, I find the Search functionality (magnifying glass icon) really very very poor! It should at least support AND, OR, NOT and wildcards. Also I would like to have an option to attach files to posts.

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This feedback would probably be better directed at the https://discourse.org project itself, as migrating another time would worsen the searchability of knowledge. Additionally, Discourse is the most popular choice for FOSS forums for a reason & even popular proprietairy competitors like WoltLab don’t support threading (or at least don’t have it enabled per default, idk). So the demand for threads seems to be low. The real question is why. The 1st obvious thing that comes to my mind is the loss of inter-thread engangement, where information is distributed over many threads and you either don’t find everything (, too) or have to read everything until you found a solution, anyway. The 2nd thing is driving off-topic, which really is the main problem of the SFOS forum. Threads would organize around this issue, not really prevent it, maybe even encourage that solution for problem X is in a thread on a post regarding problem Y. Other Discourse forums that I visit (ROS, Haskell, Django, Seafile) do not have the problem with many OT comments.
This is most likely caused by the endless never-ending arguments about the same stuff in here, causing forum posts to look more a Reddit post than technical support or announcements. I think the should be more seperated & neverending back-forth argument posts should be locked to lessen the flood of repetitive information.

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I personally am a fan of newsgroups. One hierarchy for every discussion possible. No running around the web using search engines while hoping one reaches the discussion one needs.
Just one hierarchy and there the discussion takes place.

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No, it is good here. I would guess it is a central design decision they made if they don’t have threads at this stage. If I was participating there I would say you’re free to choose some other project, if you don’t like our core philosophy.

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Full agree! The forum structure is nice and it fits for humans to discuss with each other - nomen est omen, but in some cases it would be fine to split a thread if it turns to a completely other theme or issue.

in some cases it would be fine to split a thread if it turns to a completely other theme or issue.

… which we have done quite a few times.

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Agree! Please do not migrate! It’s not so bad now, but rather good. IMHO only the search function is in great need of improvement, but for the rest no frustration on my side.