Forum role and mission

How about giving roles and with it a mission to the users at this forum? Why: just for fun. I suggest that users could choose a primary role of idealist, businessist or industrialist, or so, and that would determine their mission. Idealist forms ideas, businessist connect ideas with vendors who have or create software. Discussions would determine realisable ideas and willingness to implement a realisable idea. Everyone would also recognise the roles of each other in discussions. The role could be toggleable for a topic.

My backthought is that at the moment, I am (only) checking the forum for any news.

But why?​​​​​​​​​​​​

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Welcome here,
From what I have seen, read and understood since 2022,
I’d say the objective of this forum is globally to help in Sailfish OS and community evolution.
In details this declines in:
-Proposing and discuss contribution to the OS open parts
-Proposing/developping or contributing applications
-Exchanging technical solutions on the OS use and improvement
-Exchanging technical information about applications development
-Asking AND giving help when someone is stuck somewhere
-Suggesting features
-Reporting bugs
-Contributing to translating the OS and the apps
-Fiddling, exchanging tips and tricks
I may forget some points though…

Anyway, I’m not certain that roles would find their place here, as everybody already has one or more roles (Jolla, developers ,simple users asking for help, users helping others, trolls, newcomers discovering the OS…)

Also see here:
https://forum.sailfishos.org/faq

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I am sorry but I do not see any advantage in roles and ranks. Even these badges are not really good for anything else than identifying experienced and new people.

If you are a regular you can show that to others or not.

So you want to turn the forum into an RPG?

Only having one role seems really limiting and counter-productive.

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But why add permanent tags to everyone?
People can have different opinions, hopefully evolving opinions as well, and might have interesting takes on completely different topics/situations.

Kind of but not in a compulsory way. I would hope that it is enjoyable. The fun could also be productive in a unstressful way.

The roles would provide additional context to a discussion if the role is used. I’d say the roles can be changed at will.

It’s understandable that the game system would cause some interesting situations that can cause frustration. But participation would be voluntary.

I can only agree with @nthn - what would be the point?

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Creating discussion about ideas, solutions, cooperation. It is something to do if someone wants to do something. Others can help. I assume some people, like me, are here for fun.

What about that isn’t working? What would these rather arbitrary roles help with?

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I guess the suggested roles imitate somewhat the phases in software production. The roles are very different and therefore allocate relatively much responsibility and meaningfulness

I disagree - i’m a developer for my day job and i don’t recognize them at all. Please make an actual argument in which you explain how.

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Thank you, I reckon this topic would be more suitable somewhere else than a forum about operating system but as this category seemed to apply only to the site I chose this

In practice I suppose you would assume the role of a vendor. I in turn could assume a role of idealist. Then a businessist would communicate my idea to you in a way that would result in something happening.

So just because i can program, i’m not allowed to have ideas? That’s ridiculous.
I really don’t see this being helpful or working at all. For anyone to do anything, they need to care about it themselves (or get really well paid).

There are way too many not technically minded people “having ideas” that are not feasible or at least not interesting already. No need to encourage it more.

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I think that not-technically minded people could provide out-of-the-box ideas to vendors and the other way around. Albeit they might need a trusted person to the middle. The roles are to facilitate conversation, not to restrict it.

But have you seen Jolla tap into everything that comes from the community like their life depends on it?
Meaning if I ask for something and am ignored let’s say (for whatever reason), having a forum tag will change that?

Jolla could support with OS tools and such but the actors would be of the community creating user apps and tools. The tag could encourage to write replies from a perspective that is relevant to the tag/role in addition to more general replies.

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There are already some roles:

  • Moderator
  • Bug coordinator
  • Writer

We need to keep in mind that people may stop when they aren’t motivated anymore. It’s what happened with the bug coordination team. Because if you’re not getting paid, the motivation may leave fast.
Such things must be well coordinated and each role need a defined scope.

postmarketOS is doing that really well in my opinion, but there are no company behind. So you can ask more from users.

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SailfishOS devs and Jolla employees should be clearly marked if they are acting in an official capacity.