After being a Sailfish OS user for over 3 years, I unfortunately have to say goodbye to this beautiful OS.
Due to a mobile provider switch which is causing internet problems for me on SFOS (rendering normal daily operations unusable), I have had to move on (or rather downgrade) to an Android phone again.
Hoping the problem was related to the phone itself (an Xperia 10 II at the time) I bought an Xperia 10 V, but on this device I encountered the exact same problem.
Because of this, the 10 V has been lying around here (unused) for a few months now and since I am not going to use it, I decided to make it available for sale. Along with the phone comes a matching Spigen Rugged Armor Case and 2 Spigen Alignmaster Screen Protectors. See also the pictures below:
I think it is fair to ask €350 for this whole set (excluding shipping, which will be from the Netherlands). It will be delivered in Sailfish OS factory settings.
I am also open to other proposals of course. Please send me a private message if you are interested!
Can’t you just switch to a different provider? I would not give up so fast. What exactly is your internet problem, maybe someone can help you stay with sfos. Or are there any more reasons?
I really appreciate your helpfulness, but made my choice a while ago. I am stuck with my phone plan for 2 years and am really dependent on good 5G.
Some time ago I also made a post on this forum to troubleshoot the problem (https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/cellular-connection-dropping-very-frequently), but at the time more people reported having an unreliable cellular connection. Combined with some other minor frustrations regarding Sailfish OS, i have just resigned for now.
Meh, I don’t like Dutch people quitting such fights. There is much technical freedom in this country (partly) because of fights like these.
I’d like to know which provider is the issue? Mainly which of the 3 network providers, not mainly the service provider.
I’ve had problems with Vodafone, but the issue doesn’t seem to be specific for this provider. On my previous plan (Odido) I also started having issues, which is partly the reason I switched.
If no one is interested, I will revert the device back to Android and sell it through another channel. Of course, I would prefer to sell it to another sailor, so please let me know if you are still interested. The price is negotiable.
If you wish to have a feedback:
I believe the opening price tag is too high.
About a year ago Xperia V was sold officially by Sony in shops around this price (350, 380 with accessories and shipping).
Here, even if mint conditions, we still speak about a second hand phone (not the same consumer engagement than a new phone from a shop).
I understand that you wrote price is negociable, but still if you wish to sell on this forum i would advise you to put an opening price more like about half price of what it costed when you bought it new…
In retrospect, it would probably have been wise to first try out the Vodafone network by means of buying and testing a prepaid Vodafone card before you switched providers.
You could still check how your Xperia 10V likes the KPN network (if you haven’t already). If it works properly and you want to stick with (or return to) SFOS you might just put your Xperia aside for two years and then switch to KPN afterwards.
The Xperia 10V is currently still the most modern smartphone that is officially supported by Jolla. It might also well be the last Sony Xperia upon which that honor is bestowed, given how Sony has been radically reducing its retail outlets in Europe. The 10V is mostly sold out by now - that also holds for the 10VI by the way. As such, an Xperia 10V in decent state might fetch a reasonable price even two years from now. No guarantees here of course. If, for instance, the Next Gen Jolla phone becomes available next year and is considered to be a succes, then that will negatively affect the second hand market value of the 10V.
Maybe €350 is a bit steep, but I do expect you can sell it for around €300 with all of the accessories you have included, especially if the device is not showing any scratches. Is it?
This was indeed my consideration as well. It is virtually impossible to get hold of a new Xperia 10 V nowadays, so the alternative is to purchase a refurbished device, which of course means compromising on aspects such as battery life.
Since I have not used this device beyond testing it, its condition is indeed mint-like (of course without any scratches).
In hindsight, I agree however that the asking price of €350 was perhaps a little too optimistic.
I’m willing to sell the whole set for €250 (including the accessories in the pictures) to the first person who sends me a message.
So many users so many different scenario’s, so here’s my “solution”
I never succeeded in using only Sailfish for everything.
Did you consider using a cheap dedicated 5G phone and use this as a hotspot for 5G → WIFI? You throw it next to a window or in a backpack a couple of meters away, powered by a power bank.
In my case I found the WIFI hotspot on Sailfish very stable and reliable and this role is in fact one of the best uses for my Sailfish phone.
When I need mobile internet to work I enable WIFI hotspot on the Sailfish phone (Xperia 10 III) and use this to connect the plentitude device(s) that has (have) all the productivity “apps” combined with human friendly input interfaces.
But I have limited data plan so no extended video meetings or data intensive tasks. The very demanding Apple Facetime works perfectly even when driving over 4G.
Benefit: you deal only with effects of WIFI while keeping the 5G focused away from your body.
I think it’s a reasonable expectation that if someone buys a smartphone, that they can use it in the real world (out and about)…and not have to carry around a second phone to accomplish the job the first one should have done in the first place.
Feature wise and looking at Jolla’s history since 2013, when talking about Sailfish I don’t think that is a realistic reasonable expectation. People who like Sailfish should do so for very different and various reasons.
I fully support your attitude to be more demanding but one needs to formulate scenarios.
In my also quite real world nobody needs 5G right in front of their face or at inches from their vital organs. Hence my solution that solves this issue.
Nobody needs banking & payment apps coupled with biometrics etc.. whatsoever, (Jolla = we are privacy oriented, well then: walk the walk, fans!)
It would be reasonable to expect to buy a “smartphone” that it allows out of the box to communicate over ALL communication protocols messengers open & closed in ONE integrated hub even for the device to deserve the title “phone”.. It would be reasonable to pay extra for the plug ins for the more exotic ones.
Adding “smart” to phone I would suggest it’s reasonable right now to hold off high expectations until it runs the whole AI chatbot hype thing offline on the device, with voice control and smartly learns how to personally makes smartphone use less frustrating and hidden stress inducing for ages 14-104!
Second device could be small but if for better antenna’s better choose a larger one (?)?
Phone form factors are so dumbed down that people need to carry battery packs when really out and about outside Planet Stirbuck’s. Nostalgia to 1995 when one could just add a brick battery pack to the phone to help it get through a day of usages and avoid the need to lift weight after works.. what
How did things change considerably because nobody reasonable demanded them to change and evolve?
