Defender app update (harbour-defender) - my very own ‘Sailfish Devember’

Yes, as nephros says: a bit more info could help us to help you.
I just tried once more and did not run into any problem…

sorry, ok, storeman tells me he is installing but nothing happens, just the ring does infinitly loop.

with the download he asks for the Installation but then simply says “Installation fehlgeschlagen” which simply means could not install, no error msg. i have no idea if i can try it by console, i’m not that good in coding etc. i just like sailfish and its unlike ux (even if it gets worse so often with updates)’

Well first for the spinner (ring) not stopping to spin: This might be a small bug in Storeman. Happens for me, too. But it’s not necessarily an indicator for issues, I see it on successful installs as well.

Now, to the error message : Normally, when you tap the notification Storeman emmits, you should see some details about why the install failed.

Probably the most straight forward solution - without knowing the specific reason why installing failed (check you error message for that):
Try to refresh you package cache. You can do this using the terminal with developer mode enabled by issuing the command devel-su pkcon refresh.
Alternatively the more ‘average user way’ is to install Sailfish Utilities from the Jolla store and refresh the cache from there (see section “Paket-Zwischenspeicher”).

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Yes, was looking for a possibility of

pkcon refresh

without devel-su.

Thus is an infamous ‘bug’ that after an OS update you need to update your package cache on your own.

This here -using rozgwi’s explanation- is more than just a pkcon refresh but the only possibility I see without terminal and devel-su…

ok, i may be a more average user compred to most of you but i’m not afraid to use console ( on my work i’m the one using shell scripts) :slight_smile:

i did pkcon refresh on decel-su first. now i did it without being root. then i tried to pkcon install habour-defender and got a fatal exception: a conflict with sailfishos-hosts-adblock. i hsd no idea that this is still on my device. after removing it i went to storeman and installed the defender. thanks for your help. i do not get why nowadays i have to be not under devel-su but this is my fault :slight_smile: so as said before compred to nost of you i’m just an average user with some experience.
thanks all, defender is already installed now.


This great update has been working for months but recently I have run into the issue where updating the blocking lists loops forever. I’m using 0.4.2 and am still on SFOS 3.4.0.
I have disabled any sources except the Unified Hosts, and hpHosts. Individually enabling any of these and restarting the update doesn’t help. Even after reinstalling Defender the update progress bar displays just the same
What can I do? Could it be that all the subscription sources have become unavailable ?
Right now blocking isn’t working at all.

Has anyone got an idea?

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short/fast answer…did you reboot or make sure with killall that ni python defender moduke was still running
afair this really hangs
so just reconfiguring and trying ti get it running okay will not work…

I have the same issue. Uninstalled, restarted, then installed again with the same problem.

Also, some of the sources went offline long time ago:

Maybe, they should be removed from the app?

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I need to confirm that it looks like the StevenBlack compilation (unified) causes defender to update-loop.
The hosts file are reachable as normal at

I have no idea what may cause this. Some blocking or useragent voodoo changed on github?

So workflow in case your defender loops:

  • disable all non-working sources
  • pulley and choose update again
  • close defender
  • reopen defender
  • (choose working sources) and update again

hphosts is also known to not work!
I have enabled:


That worked. Thanks!

Just a quick thought: should these stop working too or be insufficient for the need of some - maybe looking at lists provided for PiHole is an option?

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You are welcome.
__ edit, regarding the ‘update loop’:
In case you have a few lists and StevenBlack list enabled, the update takes a long time, could be > 15 min. So be patient. __

And -as I guess I understood now how the configuration is propagated- we could exclude definitely not working lists.
__ done in v0.4.3 __

I cannot edit/wikify my first post, so we have to compile this info here (hopefully I can make this post to a wiki!?)

Not working lists:

Questionable (atm working again!):

  • StevenBlack hosts, unified (all)

Questionable (atm NOT working due to cert errror!):

And yes of course we could add other good lists. Just provide info about them like:

Source = StevenBlack
hostsName = Unified hosts (adware + malware)
Info =
Url =
/hostsDescription = Composite hosts file of hosts files from a variety of sources like,,,,, and others
AltUrl =
ZipUrl =
SourceEnabled = no

Oh, and as long as I can still edit this post here, I add the new link to the renamed openrepos page:


StevenBlack’s unified hosts file do work for me now again!
(after having reset and reconfigured my test device, for another scenario :wink: )

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I tried this fork on my encrypted Xperia XA2 with Sailfish and my device would not boot. I was able to fix it using ‘fastboot’ and the recovery image, but was wondering if anyone else has tried this with Sailfish 4?

No problem here with an encrypted X.
Update to went well with defender installed.

And survived some reboots and configuration changes (incl. uninstall/re-imstall).
Are you sure you took the defender app from my openrepps?
Did you change/installanything else?

I cannot confirm problems else one made by Jolla, see next post…

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Hint for native sailfish browser user:

The hosts file is not taken into account by the sailjailed browser.You need to edit/etc/sailjail/permissions/Internet permissionsand add ‘,nsswitch.conf’ to the line starting with \private-etc’, until Jolla hopefully fixes this missing configuration…


Yes, definitely used your fork directly from the OpenRepos website. I downloaded the RPM and installed it using the File Browser app. After rebooting and entering my PIN, the device just showed the spinning screen and never started the main UI.

That would be strange as this sounds like the original (old/fixed) start issue.

And I would not claim it is working if I would not have tested. On an encrypted X. Updated to

Also I do not see a difference between X and XA2 in this regard.

And also the possible difference in the admin user name (nemo/defaultuser) did not cause the boot loop.

Can someone else please confirm/deny this?

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Hi Peterle. Sadly, regardless of what sources I have enabled, no cookies show up and no ads are blocked. I have added the line you mentioned in Internet.permission. Still no luck. X10 plus.

The crazy thing it is still blocking ads in the browser in 4.0 on my Xperia 10. And you guy say it shouldn’t work without a patch. That’s weird. No I was wrong, the it doesn’t work with the new browser
@apozaf Are you sure you chose correct sources, Steven Black’s were not working for me again, maybe it is simply failing to synchronise them on your device?

Hi Jacek, yes I have tried everything. Disabled StevenB, reinstall app, update, reboots… Maybe the host file has no write permission? At least cookies should show up. Did you update from 3 to 4 with defender installed?