Community meeting on 10th April 2025

Schedule: Thursday 2025-04-10T07:00:00Z   :world_map: :date:

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  • Name/IRC nick: Crun
  • Topic: How to make Carrier VoLTE config files?
  • Some details about the topic:
    X10III appears to need a signed config file for each carrier to use VoLTE and VoWifi
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When 3G is turned off in NZ, both my X10IIIs will be scrap. This has already happened in AU. There will be zero SFOS devices that can make VoLTE calls here after that.
The carriers do not lock the phones out, but it appears that carriers settings have to be put in a file which is made and signed by Sony/Qualcomm/Some licensee, and preinstalled on the phone or an update. information can be obtained.
see VoLTE provider support - #274 by crun
Is this correct?
Must the files be signed? (X10II files were plain text?)
If so, who can sign the files?
Can Jolla make these files?
Can Jolla pressure or cajole Sony to make them or sign them?
How are phones supposed to global roam when 3G is gone? Is there some other provisioning method for VoLTE roaming?
Are there generic files that we could try?

None of the 3 carriers have done so as Sony does not sell phones here.
My carrier’s network engineer was not obstructive - so I believe that the required information could be obtained from at least one carrier.

When my phone stops working I will take Sony (NZ) to the small claims court, as they have stated globally that VoLTE works, with no caveats about where it doesn’t. I don’t expect to achieve much, but Sony (NZ) may well contact head office that they have faced legal action about this
Does Jolla have a named contact in Sony HQ, who Sony (NZ) should contact when this happens?

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  • Name/IRC nick: dodoradio
  • Topic: open sourcing roadmap
  • Some details about the topic: at FOSDEM in early February, there was discussion of Jolla moving forward with opening up more components, and about working with the community to help this happen. I feel it would be helpful to release some sort of roadmap, at least laying out which components are desirable to open up, and where the community can help.
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Piggyback question:

What are roadblocks to open-sourcing said components? What needs to happen so these roadblocks go away?

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Minutes: #sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 10th April 2025
Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-04-10-07.00.txt
Log: #sailfishos-meeting log

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Are you saying you can’t make calls using your X10III when VoLTE is enabled in AUS?

NZ.
But no an X10III never made VoLTE calls in NZ, because there are no carrier settings for any carrier, because Sony didn’t sell them here, so didn’t bother.
Yeah, hard to believe isn’t it.

I think they used to work in AU, but are now disabled there.

Sure. My X10III with Vodafone AU still works fine with making calls with VoLTE enabled. I must be unique.

I thought they fell foul of the emergency calling debacle?

Some did but not me. All working well on 4G and VoLTE

Very interesting discussion today.
It would be great to have a regular roadmap discussion at the community meetings!
If possible, not only with an emphasis on the past (“what has changed/has gotten dropped/postponed”), but also a glimpse of the future (“which changes are targeted/what component will be open-sourced next once we find the time/resources to do so”).

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Just saying that I’m thinking roadmap from broader perspective – I just want to be super clear on this matter as I have seen term roadmap failing on our community. That said, it is something where we can educate each other as all of us are not familiar with a roadmap especially when we are talking about a software roadmap as a planning tool. That is the reason why I am also saying that it has to be interactive and updateable as things tend to change.

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