Best browser to use

I tried to install Vivaldi, unfortunately it requires SDK 21, but the SDK version on Xperia X is 19. Vivaldi is my favourite browser on desktop.

Back to the question of @PatsJolla
I use Lightning browser, it works more or less at the same speed as stock browser only some sites are being rendered better than on stock browser.Also for some sites purely for reading longer articles without distractions Lelig web works very well.

Otherwise being in a limbo and waiting for updated stock browser or updated Qt, what will empower Webcat and Webpirate, o probably bring other browsers native ports.

Be aware it has a lot of trackers built in: facebook, hockeyapp, google… Just to name some. I would never ever use it.

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Firefox nightly here: it runs ok on X10plus, not on X10 (too slow), it syncs (Fennec does not on SFOS) and supports ublock and other plugins I would never surf without.
And it is NOT chromium based.
Epiphany / Gnome Web would be a good future project for SFOS imho.

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Ok. Chromium is no good. Why? Google spies?


You name it. To make my point clear: on mobile. There it is hardly managable / impossible to degoogle the code.

What is the difference between Firefox and Firefox Nightly? Are neither built.on Chromium, or one of them is?

FIrefox Nightly is the development version of FIrefox.
Neither is using Chromium as base

Firefox stable now uses the same codebase as the previous nightly build. Often critisized because of many missig addons. Previously to the now stable build, FF would not sync on SFOS, that is why I used nightly and just stayed with it because I am too lazy to change.
FF uses Gecko, not Chromium. While still evil, it is less evil than google :smiley:

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We should all urge Vivaldi to make an SFOS version. I tried to nudge them, but the jolla team and von Tzetchner were so far not really keen to talk to each other, which I find unfortunate, given the scandinavic proximity.

No. Even if you turn off everything googlish (dns fallback etc.) in Vivaldi, it still contacts google on a regular basis:

GET /service/update2/crx?os=linux&arch=x64&os_arch=x86_64&nacl_arch=x86-64&prod=chromiumcrx&prodchannel=&prodversion=75.0.3770.102&lang=de&acceptformat=crx2,crx3&x=id%3Dpkedcjkdefgpdelpbcmbmeomcjbeemfm%26v%3D7519.422.0.3%26installedby%3Dother%26uc HTTP/1.1
Connection: close
X-Goog-Update-Interactivity: bg
X-Goog-Update-AppId: pkedcjkdefgpdelpbcmbmeomcjbeemfm
X-Goog-Update-Updater: chromiumcrx-75.0.3770.102
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/75.0.3770.102 Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/2.6.1566.44
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Accept-Language: de-DE,de;q=0.9,en-US;q=0.8,en;q=0.7

this is just one example, there is much more.


I asked that question back then while using vivaldi on my linux box. And Yngve Pettersen responded that they contact google servers to update components and the safe browsing blacklist. In this case, only IP addresses are exposed. Here, it looks like additional appstore credentials are used. I will follow up in the forum to ask about it.