Article in Aamulehti about Jolla (finnish only)

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#61

Well there is a reason and that reason is quite simple. No one forces you to stop doing business with Russia, but one should always remember that every ruble payed as Russian taxes supports the war as it pays the bills. If you can live with this business mind as a company it’s fine, but for many customers it’s not.

So in my opinion it’s a valid point for the article @David posted that the links between Jolla and Russian stake holders are mentioned and that Jolla decided to cut it’s ties with them for morality and saying no to a European battlefield.

But back on topic that article made me :pray: for Jolla to survive these stormy times :cry:.

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#73

That’s true, too.

But what I meant was that during the so called pandemic I had my own first hand experience with how having a SFOS phone (i.e. independent and not controlled by any corpos or governments) saved me from what millions of people had to go through - a literally humiliating surveillance via a mandatory covid app that every person under quarantine was required to install unless… he/she stated that he didn’t have a “compatible phone” (i.e. either iOS or Android).

The application was forcing people - at completely random times, even in the middle of the night - to take pictures of themselves with certain things in the background like e.g. refrigerator or washing machine - and instantly submit them (to God knows where) to prove that they stay at home. Then it turned out that all that data is administered by a small and so far unknown private company which was given the rights to store and process them for 6 years or so.

Whereas millions of people in my country had to go through that insanity and complete violence of their privacy, for me it was enough to state (by phone to a sanitary-epidemiological station clerk) that I have an “incompatible phone” based on an unsupported OS. And that was my only contact with them and nobody bothered me ever again, whereas those who refused to install the app or forgot to take and submit a photo in time had police visits and calls from “San-Epid”…

So long live SFOS and stay independent forever.

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#74

And your politicians managed to convince you it was EU.

Fun fact, I’m also from EU and nothing like that was enforced (or even advised), this is the first time I’m hearing about it. And the same EU rules apply here as anywhere in EU.

So the only logical conclusion is it was your own government, not EU.

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#75

This topic was started to share news related to the financial situation of Jolla.
I think it would be good to keep it for just this purpose .
It’s not about censorship or anything - just about focus .

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#76

And what country was that?

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#77

The discussion points out the importance to have alternatives to GA(FAM), while on the other hand if Jolla were supported by the EU as an alternative to Android/Apple, this will not be for free, and there also would be a Sailfish compatible Covid app… For such purposes it’s better to stay below the RADAR.

#78

Actually, for the German implementation, there is a sailfish compatible Covid app. However, the use of the app never was compulsive for any OS…

#103

I guess the moderators are on vacation.
grabs pop-corn

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#106

Could you please move your discussion to a new thread with a matching title? There’s no need to hijack other topics.

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#108

This topic is temporarily closed for at least 4 hours due to a large number of community flags.

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#109
#110

The thread has been cleaned of off-topic and political comments and statements. We kindly remind everyone to stay on topic and focus on the matter at hand. Furthermore, we would like to emphasize that there are numerous other forums available for political debates. However, this particular forum is designated for Sailfish OS and Jolla-related discussions. Therefore, we ask that you refrain from introducing political content into the conversations here. Any political posts or comments will continue to be removed by the moderators.

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#111

Then please stop to act politically too. I mean people are frustrated to not know what is happening with Jolla and Sailfish OS. If you back off from Russian investments, explain what are the plans and how the future looks. And prove that you are not doing it for political reasons. IMO you are hypocrites and I wish you could prove the opposite.
Thank you in advance!

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#112

Strong word… But in general I agree.
We, the community, invest really a lot of engagement and dozens or hundreds of working hours into SFOS development, testing, fixing bugs, and so on. The ‘real’ coders among us (the community) contribute an essential part for the existence, surviving and progress of SFOS.
As @Jolla not discloses their plans, rumours and speculations follow.
A better communication from @Jolla 's side would enhance the quality level of communication here in the forum.

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#113

You have no idea what it means to be Jolla; neither do I :slight_smile:
Jolla is still a privately owned company, with a board. It’s their responsibility to take action, not ours.
If you think you can do a better job, buy Jolla, get to the board, and do your magic :).
If we give them a chance, they will explain themselves (perhaps through different channels).
If not, anyone is free to take their own conclusions, as well as to keep them for themselves.
This is, still today, a free world after all :wink: (pun intended)

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#115

Well, define free world. You are a guest in this forum, and so you should behave like a guest and accept the rules which the host of this forum is making. You are free to use this forum or not.

If you invite me to your house and I would insult you and your guests and pee on the carpet, I’m quite sure you would react like any host would do. And you would be quite irritated, when someone would call you a Nazi for that reason.

This forum is an offer. Not more, not less. Take it or leave it. That has nothing to do with Nazism or denunciation. It is simply a question of good manners and adequate behaviour.

By the way, the same is valid for Sailfish OS. It is an offer, nobody is forcing you to use it. Just like with any other product, if the offer doesn’t satisfy you (for what reason ever), buy something else.

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#116

If someone flags posts like the one above, he/she has my sympathies. It is simply rude and insulting towards people you do not even know.

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#117

I never wrote that it was the EU, so please improve your reading (and understanding) skills. What I wrote was that I highly value SFOS for being independent of any institutional and governmental influence, that obviously including the EU. As for the covid app (mandatory for all quarantined persons in Poland, except for those who stated not having a compatible phone), yes, it OBVIOUSLY was our own government, not the EU, and I never stated otherwise. But the next time such a thing happens, it may be the EU, as its rapid course towards much deeper federalization (and intercepting more and more of local governments’ powers) is apparent.

Aplikacja „Kwarantanna domowa” jest obowiązkowa! - Aktualności - Policja Lubelska (Google translated to English - official website of the Police informing that the app was mandatory).

Anyway, the above comment of mine was in relation to someone’s idea expressed earlier in this thread that Jolla should tighten ties with the EU, which at some point in the future might possibly make SFOS for the EU what the Aurora OS is for Russia. So please do NOT.

#118

nazi is a too strong word, friend! That’s vulgar. In general, your criticism is valid.

Very very interesting observation is, that I can’t no more disable my like for this post…

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