A post was merged into an existing topic: Only Sailfish OS and Jolla
Dig deeper into your memory and you will find that the subject ‘Microtube’ has been an issue here. It didn’t always work. That’s why I went to Newpipe while I once paid E15 for your app. It would have been easier to leave a comment in the Sailfish store.
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Using the word ‘garbage’ is rude and so is your suggestion not to use Jolla app store.
Jolla app store could use some improvement and maintenance. Apps could be categorised better. Perhaps a general text that explains sandboxing can be added.
Yet Jolla app store is the most logical and most reliable way for searching and installing Sailfish apps.
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“Apps could be categorised better.” - agree with this statement. I guess that application store - is one of the faces of operating systems. I believe that at least better categorization (recursive tree) of applications - should be provided. The attack on Jolla store appeared due to the fall of openrepos store - which was fallback option of highly restricted to publish native store. I believe that we as community shall collect together and build our own site ee like. With tags of: Os version, supported (compiled architecture), report to warn new installable application system about that installable application may damage phones stability or OS work, like (users have report that this application damages OS stability). Easy publishing UX, updating system, and nice design. I have asked GPT to provide silica like user welcoming design (images i will attach to this post), and section with good UI to explore previous unknown to user applications (by category or total random) (like swiping or doom scrolling across of cards of applications like in tiktok, or similar)
Cuz i believe that while openrrpos is down - its the best time to make good UX app store together
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Haha, that title. 
Jolla Store is garbage
As a “consumer” I tune in with the provocative statement that from day one I found this “ecosystem app-store” concept is garbage.
It brought (bought) me not much good.
-pushed the marketing idea that Nokia was behind in the battle of the ecosystems helping its quick demise
Jolla:
-First it is not a “store” because I can’t buy anything from it.
That privacy respecting optional alternative payment part is totally missing in action for over a decade.
It could have resulted in a blue checkmark next to my name saying: buys software they like (instead of just bitching).
Quoting one developer who’s application I have purchased because he had a nice personal payment portal setup, realizing Jolla wouldn’t cut it: “Payment in the Sailfish store is too little too late. This should have happened like 5-8 years ago.” A little too late in 2024. I’d argue overdue with questionable intent.
Why no pay whatever you can give or tip system, recurring tip to vote with wallet on updates? (note wallet is the only vote we still have ..for now)
-it works divisive undermining its own centralizing policy. Instead of a convenient central place store policies chase developers away to alternate methods of distribution.
it lacks filters and clear descriptions: as a user I am not interested in the app for metro or public transport in a capital 3000km’s away to show up all time or software companions for niche hardware / network X making me wonder what means “app to X” or “native client for X” without at showing courtesy to draw a single sentence of description what is X so we may actually learn something from within app shop. So it is like dumpster diving: you weed through the garbage determined to find a gem.
-store dumbs users instincts and replaces this perception of a form of centralized curation “we scan for malicious code or privacy intrusive conduct so you don’t have to worry about it”
-it replaces decent reviews with quick comments that lose relevance once the software advances several versions of fixes and updates further
Jolla is not too bad: Besides garbage there is also pure raw sewage sludge:
iOS app store purchases transform and mutate from purchased forever to subscription models overnight intertwined with a “restore your purchase” requests. You can forget about picking up that device frozen in time 10 years later and have those “offline” applications still working. Childish reviews, thematic propaganda driven by algorithms every time one opens the thing..
That Jolla offers at least a cure against this kind of sickness is something to be grateful for but it will take more creativity to shine than just be less bad.
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There’s no attack on the Jolla store. If anything, it was considered the worst possible way to distribute apps for sfos for about a decade now. If that was not the case, chum would not exist and operepos would have been a graveyard of apps since MeeGo days.
Jolla store’s main problem is not the UI, even if it could have been much better.
The problem is how developer unfriendly it is by design from multiple perspectives.
For most new users that are completely oblivious to everything else going on, this is the one and only “trusty” store.
And for developers that stuck around for years, this should have been the way to promote their work, and in my opinion make some money as well.
It desperately needs some love and we should be advocating for that.
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No, the Jolla Store is the best way to publish SFOS apps. And the best place to get an app.
This topic continue a very old discussion. I think don’t need to replay this again and again.
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I couldn’t agree more. Thanks Kanthal!
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I’m happy it’s working for your apps.
Regarding your opinions and what you want to “relay”, you are more than welcome to, but it’s not necessary or requested.
I must agree.
Who, on their desktop computer, gets all their software from only one outlet? You mean to tell me every piece of software installed on your Mac comes from the App Store exclusively? You’ve never downloaded setup.exe from some developer’s website on Windows? You haven’t added an apt repository or installed Flatpak on your Debian machine?
I am a huge fan of the fact that alternative app stores exist for SFOS. And yet, they would not exist if the Jolla Store was the best option! Clearly it is not, which has prompted both users and developers to seek alternatives.
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How often the heading of this topic changed? Whats this thread about and for? Whats the point we want to archive with this “exchange”? I see no benefit in this is good, is bad statements
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An effort to gather native apps as alternatives to Android apps probably (even if an actual topic exists).
Initial post here
Yes but whats the point? Sfos as daily driver is no problem with or without android apps. All depends on personal needs, expectations and wilingness..
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Oh yeah go attack microtube which uses youtube api which youtube breaks every week and blame it for not working, so highly of y’all
That is not an argument, that is spitting in my face
I’ll be honest I have no clue why @filip.k extracted this part as separate thread because it is very much so not “how to improve it”. My posts were a tip to original author to not use jolla store exclusively cause that will make daily driving sfos a painful experience which is not “how to improve it”
I was pondering making thread describing all the improvements needed but that is definitely not this thread, and decided not to do it until Commodore is out
IMHO this thread should be closed
Totally agree to closing this thread. Nothing with substance in here and mixed up a lot of different topics.
who want to close it , it can . i wanted to discuss in this thread only problems and solutions for people who want the ‘misreable experience of SFOS ‘ without any android apps witch thend to drain battery more often and turns jolla phone into …an android phone. by disscusions placed here also solutions apear. just that. and who does not like something, can also choose to ignore this thread. why the long hate, criticism and yes, nothing productive just sterile talks.
So, who understands my intent, write here and are welcome, who do not understand or do not agree or just hate ,please just ignore this thread. i am sure you can leave without this thread! Thank you.
This is not your thread, this is separate thread.
sorry and great. all the best!
Sorry, I wouldnt agree on it. Yes you had an intention but all mixed up and resukting in opinions about good store good app and bad store and bad app. Started about daily driver now about jolla store…So please cite me 5 or at leadt 3 posts that lead up to make things better for you cause of naming a problem and provide a workaround. For specific problems with workaround there a lot of topics with the concrete problem