Carefully read about current limitations.
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for what it’s worth I have an Xperia 10 III and on OS 4.5
-regularly restart fingerprint service
-regularly refresh media database as latest items not showing up
-regularly lose audio
-unstable android subsystem
-“receive” same SMS sometimes multiple times
-camera application becomes erratic and takes pictures with huge delay
for the rest it just works beautifully
Reason not to update: 4.5.0.25 requires agreement with new end user license. I did not investigate it yet, however the Sailfish subscription model makes me think twice before eagerly pressing update.
Never heard of Tampela. I would doubt it contains something useful for me.
Still on wishlist:
Tab on screen to activate.
Nokia style adressbook centred integrated messenging hub & sharing
Bring back optinal functionality of early Sailfish in terms of cover actions (better usage of multitasking overview buttons by swipe not only press)
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Im still on 4.5 with my 10 III, when the update came it seemed as it had some problems so i wait.
I too have some of the forementioned problems with 4.5 but not so often.
I have active jolla account and nothing forcing me to update, just a reminder sometimes. I will see when the newest stable update arrives, there seemes to be some complaint about it too.
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Just a company name change but do check for yourself.
There is no such thing yet and besides they’ll keep one time payment.
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i still use Jolla Phone 1 as my daily driver (purchased 4 pieces on the beginning and now using third piece with new 2100mAh battery) i still running SF OS 1.1.7.28 because i did not like the updated UI what come in v2
in compare to recent SF all main features (for me) works better on old system and i can count on that phone will do what i want for example: syncing/deleting/updating mails in imap folders, no buffer under-runs while listening streaming radio in car. these two important things are bugged in actual SF for ages and that is why i have Xperia 10, Xperia 10II and Xperia 10V for secondary simcards for sms auth, tests or so…
i do not need to have phone glued to my hand all the time, i do not using web or android (generally) on phone…
i just need in phone: calls, sms, xmpp, alarm, camera, workhours tracker, notes, shopping list, calendar, recorder, calculator, email, wifi analyzer, my weather station app,call recorder, terminal, rarely maps and few more…
for other apps or web … i have PC or iPads, iPhones, Xperias with actual SFOS…
in case i add jolla account and visit store then to remove update notification about new OS version i use this script:
pkill store-client
rm -f /home/nemo/.cache/store-client/os-info
rm -f /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Notifications/notifications.db
reboot
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A silly reason…
I threw it in a chatbot to make a summary:
Summary
- Update Date : The EULA was last updated on March 1, 2024, instead of October 3, 2017.
- Company Name : The company name has changed from “Jolla Ltd” to “Jollyboys Ltd.”
- Trademarks : The trademarks “Jolla” and “Sailfish” are now registered under “Jollyboys Ltd.”
- Jolla Account and Services : The terms for using Jolla Account and Services now refer to a specific URL for the Jolla Terms of Service.
- Dispute Resolution : The process for resolving disputes now directs users to contact Support via a specific URL.
- Open Source Components : The description of open source components has been slightly rephrased for clarity.
- Third-Party Software : The section on third-party software now includes a specific URL for the Jolla Terms of Service.
- Jolla Maps and HERE Services : The detailed terms for using Jolla Maps and HERE Positioning Services have been removed.
- Dispute Resolution : The process for resolving disputes now directs users to contact Support via a specific URL.
- Patent Notices : The section on patent notices, including details about AVC Video, MP4 Video, and MPEG Layer-3 audio coding technology, has been removed.
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Thanks for help, reading that takes time and effort. Sorry I did not find time to read the text and interprete it in terms of what changes for forever license vs subscription edition (new model). Don’t want to lose privelege / change working team with a hasty slip of the finger.
I don’t want to polute this threat but may I comment about chatbots: whenever I know the subject very well I find them between being incomplete and wrong to outright making things up loving to hear themselves chat in nicely structured way that impresses on the surface but fails scrutiny.
for example: the company is supposed to be come Jollyboys and then they (chatbot) continue to refer to Jolla. I will ask my lawyer about this :-p
- Jolla Account and Services : The terms for using Jolla Account and Services now refer to a specific URL for the Jolla Terms of Service.
Terms of Service
Last updated March 4, 2024
# 1. Foreword
This is a legal document (known as " Terms of Service ") which, upon accepting it (by selecting the ‘I agree to the terms of use’ checkbox), imposes binding obligations on you as a user of our services and us (collectively referred to as “Jolla”, “our”, “us” or “we”) as a service provider.
Before you make your decision on whether to accept these Terms of Service or not, we want to ensure that you have an understanding of what Jolla is like as a company, and what to expect when you join our community. We have thus included at the beginning of this document our Navigation Principles, which attempt to summarize what Jolla is all about. The legally binding Terms of Service begin in the section that follows.
As Terms of Service bind you legally, please review its terms carefully. By indicating your acceptance, we trust that you have actually read these terms.
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Respect your self control… Sadly I updated my Jolla 1’s that then lost their some of their initial apeal to me. Sold one, and one in drawer…
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I have reflashed my old Xperia 10 tinkerphone with 5.0.0.62 and then I entered my existing credentials from old purchase. Everything works fine, Appsupport, Docviewer, e-mail app… did install without any problems and I was never asked for any payment.
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I had the Xperia X, XA2 and 10 III ever since Sailfish OS became available as my daily driver. That was in 2017.
I am groing old now and sometimes wait up to 48 hours between an update becoming publicly available and updating my single device.
May main usages are Threema, Signal, Mail, Browsing with Fennec, Tor-Browser, and Navigation with Here Wego and OSMand.
I connect my car’s audio via Bluetooth and I use the 3.5mm headphone jack a lot.
I love Hafenschau, Ned Nieuws, Daily Comics and I rely on my phone for everything not involving payments. I have an Idiot-Phone for that.
I had some issues but exept for three days when I had to use my Idiot-Phone as AP in Austria I had no severe problems in most of Europe.
Restarting the phone after crossing borders is quite commonly necessary. Restarting network, audio or fingerprint is not.uncommon but all in all there is no reason to avoid updates.
My car is 20 years old and I will keep it as long as possible, I had a 48 years old motorcycle which I changed for a 13 years old after an accident and some of my bicycles are from the 1960’s. But I was and I am happy with most of the software updates I did until now.
Just do it. After all there are backups.
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The most frustrating aspect of updating lies in the fact that some non-maintained apps may no longer function unless their developers keep pace with language developments and/or build updated packages for the new version. While automated package building mitigates this issue to some extent, there is still a risk involved.
If you don’t rely on any specific app that’s not properly built for the latest version, my experience suggests that updates generally work without issues.
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AllRadio and LLs vPlayer doesn’t work on 5.0.0.61 + 62 on Xperia 10. But works fine on 4.5.0.24/25.
All other apps + network/VPN working fine. Voice calls + SMS not checked because there’s no SIM in my tinkerphone.
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Allradio works fine on SFOS 5*, but you might need to opt out of sailjail.
devel-su
echo -e "[X-Sailjail]\nSandboxing=Disabled" > /etc/sailjail/applications/harbour-allradio.desktop
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Thank you @eson , but unfortunately it doesn’t work. maybe the bug relies to my tweaks.
AllRadio tries to start and shows a white screen.
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Well, there is something wrong. While it works fine on my X10III, it didn’t now when I tried on my C2. White screen, same as you.
Waiting for a potential fix, I can recommend SailWave.
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In my C2 white screen was because it is missing that mpris-qt5-qml-plugin.
Installed that with @wetab73 instructions in Internet Radio app for Sailfish OS.
devel-su pkcon install mpris-qt5-qml-plugin
For me this was enough to get AllRadio on-the-air again.
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Yes, you are right, That was what’s missing. 
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To thank everyone once again for the many good advice and the nice conversation my
topic became I liked every post up til this one 
Big news : I went for the plunge and updated !! After the majority advised me to I decided
and it seems all went fine. Everything is still there and calling as well as sms seem to
work. I once opened Signal but messaged no one yet, seems to work, my Android Firefox
with bookmarks seems to work too , I’m suspecting that most of apps if not all will probably
work too, let’s hope things stay this way 
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I’m sure you’ll find some regressions too, but if you base your judgement on the few loud elements on a support forum you’re forever doomed to stay in place thinking it’s all crashing down
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