SailWarden - Bitwarden Client for Sailfish OS

[Kanthal]

@FixFlare

People on openrepos have been great.

Are they?
I checked open repos and you published 3 apps at the same time less than 2 weeks ago.
The first comment on Sail something for plex(?) was a question about the source code and where would you release it and you completely ignored him.

The rest of your comments across all apps are 5 people that most we know and they are here and in telegram as well.

But the whole topic is actually good from my perspective. This is a great opportunity for all of us as community to make all new users aware that they should use Jolla store and chum, because blindly downloading from openrepos can get them in troubling situations.

[Steve_Everett]

@MoralCoral

So it is AI assisted then? Please just stop talking around it and just tell us.

Actually, I think that is pretty obvious. There are quite a few AI ‘develop assisted’ apps now coming to Openrepos, and in my opinion, that is a good thing (subject to certain provisos).

What Sailfish lacks, as we all know, is an app ecosystem that will appeal to a wider audience than just SFOS fans and tinkerers.

For example, an up to date browser. Just posted on this forum is first impressions of the new J2 browser based on Gecko ESR 115 (due, for non J2 owners, in SFOS 5.2 at some point in the future).

Even in Jolla’s new, most up to date, browser you get a mesage saying that its too old and will soon no longer work with Jolla’s own SFOS forum.

It took flypig over a year of work to move the browser from, I think, ESR 78 to ESR 91.

But in a fraction of that time we now have the Atlantic browser (early version at the moment) whose UI is identical to the stock browser, but which uses an up to date Webkit engine. To paraphrase a famous beer ad, it can reach sites that no other native browser can.

We have the AI developed RooTelegram client, developed in weeks which is way more advanced than any other native Telegram client. It can do video calls (a first, I think, for a native app), groups, channels, stories, audio calls, media library, etc, etc. Its as close to Telegram’s own client in terms of functionality such that a normal user probably wouldn’t really notice the difference.

There’s an intersting debate on AI coding for SFOS in another thread here, including a poll. Worth a read if you have not already done so.

[jojomen]

@FixFlare

People on openrepos have been great. That honestly surprised me, you’d think the community would be the same people both places but seemingly not?

I would also assume that the people engaging on Openrepos are generally members of this forum. Despite using Sailfish OS for a number of years, I have only seen short, transactional comments in per-app threads on Openrepos. I wasn’t even aware that there is a Openrepos community.

To my mind, the obvious go-to places for someone developing for Sailfish OS would be this forum and the developer hangout on IRC/Matrix. People here are generally helpful, especially when questions are reasonably clear and with some background provided - the kind of questions developers often have.

I’m sure developers coming to Sailfish OS would get help, regardless of the open source/closed source nature of their project.

In addition, I think such interaction would also be a good way to gain trust and recognition, because the community would get to know the developer as work progresses. Far more efficient than, say, providing one’s CV in a comment.

[iolala]

Hey man, you should probably just ignore most people on this forum on most topics, especially on UX and AI.
I think the water is bad around these parts of the internet or something.

I have two mentions regarding the app:

1. You should bring the app to the official Jolla app store.

2. I’m not crazy about the UI. It doesn’t really feel sailfishy to me.
   The other Bitwarden client mentioned in this discussion does look like a proper native sailfish app.
   That bottom navigation bar you use just ruins it for me completely.

Just so you know, I like Sailfish OS primarily for the looks of the thing because the smarts are nowhere to be found anyway. So, for me, the way an app looks matters A LOT.

I recommend you analyze the UI paradigms that Jolla uses in their own apps (except the browser, tbh), in the settings app, in the notifications page, etc.
I also recommend you take a look at the SFOS Forum Viewer app from the official Jolla app store.

Currently, your app looks like an Android app with a pretty, Sailfish OS skin on top.
It’s definitely not bad or ugly, but it doesn’t really feel native to Sailfish OS.

[Steve_Everett]

@FixFlare

@Steve_Everett

Was that version 0.2? I’ve released 2 more versions to fix issues that people have reported.

No, v0.4 from today, 9th July.

I’ve set login by Pin, but it seems to ignore that. ‘Remember Me’ at login also doesn’t seem to work. Both things mean you have to do the lengthy login with the master password and verification code each time you start the app. The system ‘Secrets’ and ‘Confirm authorisation’ pop ups have to be acknowledged 6 times during the login process, so something is still not quite right.

Once you’ve (eventually) logged in it works great. I’m also reasonably sure that any changes you make in settings are not persistent and/or do not make any difference.