Please help me find a new device

Two times in 14 month is less than 99,9 % reliability. We should strive for more.

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You can fix SW sooner or later, or unofficially patch it or whatever. The SW is mostly Opens Source. Not being able to easily buy and use -without having to install stuff yourself- a piece of HW is bad. From my POV at least. If your iphone breaks you can easily buy one from a store down the street or something.

Finding a SFOS phone is a bit more trouble than that.

I am not saying that there are no SW related issues with SFOS that need to be solved (both bugs and tings that spoil the UX) but not having readily and easily available HW trumps each and every one of them.

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The audio can get lost when trying to receive or make a call. The phone rings normally and it reliably wakes me up each and every morning.

what a relief, it will wake me up but I may not be able to use it but hey… isn’t phone basic functionality… calling which require you to hear the other side?
Well if I wouldn’t need that functionality I’d definitively get some tablet or laptop but hey I need a phone!

@x2s I’m using the Xperia 10 and yes the ghost touches are nightmare. Some peoples mentioned that replacing screen fixes the issue. The problem is that the phone is a bit to weaky if you know what I mean. The ghost touches are bigger if you’re putting it in the back pocket of your jeans for example.

Funnily enough fixing the super scary bug you’ve never experienced is as hard as typing ‘pulseaudio -k’ in terminal and was fixed in 5 seconds for me vs restarting iPhone that takes a minute plus another two for downloading the mandatory update for teams, so downtime of seconds vs minutes, but go ahead and scare people of from using xperia 10 III, your experience with 10 mark 1 is surely great basis for such statements (FUD)

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You were babbling about missing a train because of a lack of audio one post ago.

But, I think you are right. That’s what it all is about anyway.

Please stay on topic.

I’m afraid the topic currently steered into: spreading FUD about latest xperia devices running SFOS (because a bug was reported on the forum and people without even experience of it claim it’s a dealbreaker, in that way all sony phones are out of the question even with android, see: Some perspective on the other side, cherrypicking a bug is just great, as mentioned before android and iOS also fail the test, time to go back to landlines where no SW bugs can happen). At least for me XIII with .21 is pretty much as stable and reliable as Jolla C was and I recommend it fully

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I had this ghosttouch issues on a xz2c, which is available with 3 different touch screen, one of them causes the issue (aosp bug). On x10+ the problem was shutting down caused a reboot very often. Another option would be the pinephone, it has volte by hardware and is running on 5.X kernel i guess…

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Recommendation: 10 III, no hacks, no patches. There are some at Amazon and ebay.

They are completely unusable. Like the iPhone and Android. I’ve had no phone without some more or less serious bugs. Complain or live with it. :wink:

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I fully agree, I know from some friends that they experience annoying bugs on Android as well and had to restart the phone or turn on/off airplane mode to workaround it.
Considering that Sony doesn’t officially support SFOS, Jolla did a pretty good job.
Btw recently I had to buy a new phone and I got a 10 III. If you want to stick to SFOS it’s a nobraino since 10 III is the latest supported model. Everything else is just guess work imo.

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I recommend the Sony xz2 compact with Community Port of SailfishOS. A small Powerhorse, a bit more faster than the 10 III in terms of Benchmarks.

It might be a good time to urge Jolla to look at different form factors. Whilst 21:9 is allegedly coming back again, it’s still a No from me. XA2 was perfect.

Maybe my prediction of 10 iv port will make an appearance. Maybe Saarnio will try to release App Support more generally (though sold as-is, without technical support).