Option for paying in the “store” would be a good start.
Update items from Jolla/Sailfish OS could be highlighted and open for donations “tips”.
This way users could vote by wallet.
Example: I would not pay for “updated latest version of Microsoft Exchange API whatever”
I would pay for “GUI adress book based integration of SIP secure voice”
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Let’s go with Jolly cooperations! Dark Souls cit.
Anyway, you can have a license shops as now, and add a Jolla cloud service, something like that, paid subscription to support the development
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We do not neglect Sailfish OS. Thank you everybody for the fruitful discussion! You’re right @kea that there is no unanimity. Warm thanks to each and everybody involved. I’ll close this one tomorrow given that you don’t close before me.
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“Threatening gratitude”?
Sorry, this typo made me laugh 
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Oops. Fixed the typo 
I’m laughing to myself as well.
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Not only porters but community contributors, after 15 months google assistant button will be usable as camera shutter on XIII apparently (Xperia 10 iii: make Google assistant button a camera trigger - #41 by nephros, source: Sailfish Community News, 18th April 2024 - Xperia 10 IV & V - #42 by rainemak), maybe a paid mods model like bethesda tried to introduce will work?
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I just flagged your post for no reason other than you asked to stop flagging anonymously. I hope you are feeling better now.
I think the monthly subscription is good enough, it is a small amount of fee, so you don’t have to pay much at once.
It is literally what the CEO of Jolla said: This is a phone made in Europe with a software made in Europe as well.
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From that statement started the discussion. Samsun is not in Europe, despite some people claim otherwise (Jolla CEO included). Made in Europe with chinese chip/components.
Thanks God for that they don’t want to go weekly or daily subscription, as I believe that there would be people who would consider it “good enough”, too, as in their opinion everything can be excused with “Jolla needs support”.
I can’t recall anyone complaining about having to pay much at once. IIRC, people mostly considered it a fair price. So why fix what wasn’t broken?
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Death by a thousand paper cuts. I have my XA2 5.5 years now. That would have been €330 in license fees. Rather steep, IYAM.
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And not even VoLTE support.
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Or 5G…or basic functions such as BT in Android apps, let’s not mention calling issues. But I am glad that they introduced the subscription, cause now we will see who is supporting Jolla for real. I see an analogy with church, everyone is a believer until it has to pay the ‘membership’. We will see how many of ‘supporting Jolla’ group will really subscribe.
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He was talking about the XA2 which is not a 5G device (no 5G chipset / modem), so it can’t be implemented in SFOS on that phone, either. But it does support VoLTE out of the box on Sony’s stock Android, on Lineage OS, and any other OS available for it, except for SFOS.
Another story is how 5G support will develop on the 10 III. They introduced it in 4.6 on that model without support for voice calls (it drops to 4G/VoLTE to handle them). Let’s see if it ever gets any better than that on the 10 III, which is now being referred to as a LEGACY device.
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I’m willing to support, but not worship Jolla. Subscription rubs me the wrong way. Pay €120 in 24 installments or €100 up front for a perpetual license might be palatable for me. But the permanent rent-seeking without clear benefits (especially given the poor state of the XA2 now, which I do understand given the recent troublesome years), nope, not for me.
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Paying per month/week/day (or year) is absolutely no go! But paying per update is OK.
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Because all updates are the exact same size - and could never suffer from inflation?
Not exactly a solid argument.
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The Chinese complained they had to teach history and geography to the savages from the west all the time.
What happened to the west? It is amazing! I could never imagine 30y ago. Everybody watch the movie Idiocracy and hopefully you do not recognize yourself there.
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Guys, you have obviously no idea what an enterprise with 20 employees cost per month (especially at salary rates in Europe). Multiplied by 12 it would be 1-2 million per year. And this is only to cover the cost. Now divide this by the license fee and you will get the number of licenses you have to sell, to cover the cost. Now, I heard investors are not interested in 10% ROI. So you can multiply those numbers by 1,5 at least to please the investors. Lets say you need 3mil/y to operate and license costs 50€ and we ignore the fact that in this license are included the license fees for the 3rd party software. Just assume it is 100% for you. You need 60000 licenses per year to cover the cost and have some ROI at a minimum.
Higher cost makes a product less competitive. This is why I said, if you can not make a competitive product, just close and die or make it open source.
The worst thing is that Europe did not invest in technology when it should, no it is almost too late. Of course they could, but obviously they work not for you and me, but for the US manufacturers, because they are also trying to play dirty against the competition from the East (Huawei).
These are not games for children and unfortunately I do not see any adults in Europe.
It is very sad situation.
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