No audio after some time, have to reboot

a few weeks ago i had to reflash, because the microphone wasn’t working at all, so i flashed aosp 12, but not every file was flashing successfully. then i immediately flashed sfos 4.6 with the recommended binary blobs by jolla and now it seems to be pretty stable. my girlfriend said audio sometimes disappears and now i applied your changes and since then there was no incidence where audio disappeared. it almost seems like a miracle

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I use the Xperia 10 III as my primary work phone. I enjoy maps, so I use location services daily. The audio problem has never (never) hit me. Phone calls, WhatsApp, Spotify, Media app, notifications – audio works with all of them. But I am based in Finland (without a clue how that would save me from the audio issue).

On my Xperia 10 III:
/etc/pulse/default.pa # This file contains “load-module module-suspend-on-idle” – nothing about timeout
/etc/pulse/arm_droid_default.pa # This file contains “load-module module-suspend-on-idle timeout=1”

The following document presents a suitable way of collecting logs about this issue. The script has a focus on audio.
https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Help_Articles/Collecting_Logs/Collect_Persistent_Logs/

It is good to know if the following can bring the lost audio back:

systemctl --user stop pulseaudio
systemctl --user stop ngfd
systemctl --user start pulseaudio
systemctl --user start ngfd

I do not typically have more than 5-6 apps open at a time. How many do you have in average, I mean those that suffer from this issue? (thinking of OOM)


I would be glad to come and test the issue on the beaches of Portugal. :slight_smile:

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I read that sfos on xperia 10 iii has a lot less bugs with android 12 flashed before flashing sfos. There seems to be a partition that gets flashed by android 12 and then never touched by sfos, but it seems to rely on it somehow.

Yes, some people claim this is the case. It is possible but not properly verified.

My Xperia 10 III (that does not suffer from the audio issue) has Android 11.

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I could relatively good reproduce the audio issues by installing OsmAnd from F-Droid, having some offline maps downloaded and then navigate a little with that. I do that when cycling and i can be more than sure, that audio is more or less completely dead after some time using it.

Now with sailfish flashed on Android 13 with 12_4.19.v2a blobs according to this setup cited here:

The no sound after GPS use is at least less persistent, so that it is not reproducible anymore.
I will test if it is completely gone and if it will be at least absent for the next 30 days.
Currently, audio works flawlessly after GPS use with the Sailfish on top of ‘Android 13 + 12_4.19v2a blobs’ route, but it needs more testing for robust evaluation.
For my non technical expert mind this is somewhat strange: that the Android fundament on which Sailfish is flashed, has such an impact.
Does this imply that Sailfish 5 on the upcoming Jolla C2 device will not suffer these strange Xperia specific and annoying bugs?
Anyway, deep respect to wetab73 and others who paved the way for this unexpected findings.

I hope that too, that jolla c2 will be bugless, because of jollas direct access to drivers

I’m also curious about that, the Jolla C2 is a lot worse spec wise than an Xperia III or V, but that alone might make it worth getting one after all.
Still curious to see if the V will get it’s share of SFOS issues as well, hopefully not so I can upgrade to that one instead!

The ‘Audio not working after GPS use’ bug is still there on my Xperia 10 iii with Sailfish flashed on top of Android 13 with 12_4.18v2a blobs.
Stopping pulseaudio and ngfd and restarting them as described by @jovirkku does indeed restore audio.
I also have something like up to 7 apps open, none of them appear to be particularly memory hungry.
Audio loss does not happen after every use of GPS, but frequently.
I also used the script ‘Collect Persistent Logs’ as suggested by @jovirkku. Shall I provide the generated log tarball?

I have provoked this audio loss error 3 times and collected all three logs with the gather-logs.sh tool. I just do not know where to send the logs to. Can someone please point to a potential recipient of these logs?

https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

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Cool, just sent the logs to Zendesk.

Thanks again for your support

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In my honest opinion, I think this should be added to the Utilities menu in the Settings.

It is already there in the utilities

Yes, even in the documents: :slight_smile:

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Hi

I have the same problem (on xperia 10.III, with OS 4.6), and in my case it is not (only) related to GPS usage.

Unfortunately neither Restart audio in the Utility menu or the systemctl method solves the problem. The only solution, till now, is to reboot.

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This problem still exists in 4.6.0.15 and, for me, whether I’ve used GPS or not seems to make no difference. It happens several times per week. Restarting audio from the utilities menu mostly doesn’t fix the problem. The only thing that brings sound back reliably is a reboot.

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Yes agree, still there this annoying bug on 10 iii with 4.6.0 15.
I also experience the heterogeneity the previous users described.
This bug seems to br absent on Xperia 10 V, so it is device specific

Unfortunately the 10 V, from what has been announced and reported by others, is nowhere near usable yet as a daily driver and may not be for some time.

Agreed; I’m in the same boat, would like to have a fully functional device, hopefully the IV or the V will be it; I don’t like the C2 size and specs wise; don’t want to go back to LCD; SFOS really shines on OLED.
Wonder if there are any other devices that are specs wise better or similar to a IV or V without all the issues of the III :thinking: