Is update 4.6 a beautiful disaster?

[mmr]

@WT.Sane

There are some users with SMS issues and I expect these to write about it here. But this is by far no issue for all of us.

Maybe. In fact, it doesn’t bother me that much either. But then again it does, simply because I wonder why not even trying to solve it completely? Why are issues regarding e.g. notification LEDs adressed and this seems to be ignored? For me the SMS issue is way more ‘important’ than a notification bug.
I know, not everything can be solved right away, even or especially when major functions are involved. And of course there are always easier tasks which simply get fixed rather quickly. What I miss is coherency (“this sms issue is a residue of our somewhat less optimal VoLTE introduction, let’s keep an eye on that and have it fixed in the next 2 updates…”) or at least some transparency ("issue is ranked … Because …), I don’t know…

@WT.Sane

There are some issues with mobile data and Android but many seem to handle them. I activate mobile data just before leaving my WiFi coverage and than deactivate WiFi. But your mileage may vary.

Well, I can ‘handle’ them as well. But my question is, why do we need to do it in the first place using the known workarounds? And why is an update rising the frequency of using such workarounds?
To be honest, I’d be absolutely fine if this would happen to 5G introduction only. It’s a new feature, it has some flaws, but in general it works. So things will be smoothed and sorted out in further releases. But no… It’s already (almost) working features which are getting compromised again. And I know: This can happen in software development. Absolutely fine with that. But you must not release it to the public, then…

[attah]

@mmr

why not even trying to solve it completely?

Who says they are not trying?
You go ahead and try to solve an issue of that complexity that does not reproduce for you or anyone you know and see how quick that is.

How about you collect some logs instead of moaning?

@mmr

Well, I can ‘handle’ them as well.

Just for reference; i don’t need to baby Android app connectivity one bit. It just works.

[smyru]

@WT.Sane

There are some users with SMS issues and I expect these to write about it here. But this is by far no issue for all of us.

Is there a dedicated thread / discussion on the subject of failing SMSes? I use Xperia XA2, which to my understanding has no support for VoLTE, yet plain SMSes no longer work after upgrade, while I was able to restore MMS support.

[WT.Sane]

@smyru

Is there a dedicated thread / discussion on the subject of failing SMSes? I use Xperia XA2, which to my understanding has no support for VoLTE, yet plain SMSes no longer work after upgrade, while I was able to restore MMS support.

Why should I care for a specific thread?
Works for me and as it seens many others.

@mmr

Well, I can ‘handle’ them as well. But my question is, why do we need to do it in the first place using the known workarounds?

My way to handle it was the same with each and every other mobile device.

[tortoisedoc]

I think the upgrade was long waited, and focussed on the underneath features (especially security ones).

Now would I have wanted more user-level fixes? Yes. Would I have wanted functional android emulation? Yes. Xperia 10 iV with sfos 4.6? Yes.
But if we would have gotten all of that; what else would there be to look forward to

[wetab73]

@tortoisedoc

Xperia 10 iV with sfos 4.6? Yes.

But they’re probably on vacation now, so I wouldn’t count on it before autumn

[teleshoes]

im frustrated that the mobile telephony stack is somehow worse for me (ofono loop, android mobile data),
https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/release-notes-sauna-4-6-0-13/19088/145

and that camera2 api has stalled again (since february, afaik)

[jeanpierrraubry]

i can see here and there some things do not work for one user and work for another in SFOS

how is that possible with the same hardware and same software ?

think of the automatic underground transportation in some towns
what would the passengers think if sometimes the car doors did open in front of the matching quay doors and sometimes did not

i guess the passengers would not like that

[briest]

Different versions of underlying firmware and blobs, different network operators with different requirements… Number of combinations is quite big.

[jeanpierrraubry]

ok
is that unmasterable then?
what do your customers do if you tell them “i cannot manage these basics requirements you ask me”?
they run to another provider, no?

[Seven.of.nine]

Don’t there be any technical standards any more in this technology in this modern times? Do most providers/carriers push or install their own proprietary software to the phone, so only ‘big players’ are able to follow this?

[rainemak]

Finland is on vacation but that doesn’t mean that we all would be on vacation. We have merely paused newsletter and soon to pause community meetings for month of July.