More diagnosis of the problem here. Not so much a bug but unimplemented Sony autofocus (and colour correction) features.
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no. this is very much a bug, just not a SFOS bug.
it IS a vital defect on SFOS 10III, and not on android, however, since there is no native camera2 app AND jolla-camera implements only auto-focus.
jolla-camera could workaround this very serious bug by implementing a focus model similar to AdvancedCamera, which works much much better.
OR, as is already being worked on, develop camera2 api.
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Iâve started having this issue on my Xperia 10iii recently. Iâve always had the odd occasion when the camera refused to take a photo but it seems more prevalent recently. This seemed to coincide with the 4.6.0.13 release however that may be a red herring.
It is very frustrating.
that is a red herring. this bug is not a regression in any sailfish version, because it is actually in the android firmware drivers from sony. in fact, this bug is present on AOSP, and even the native android image, fresh out of sonyâs package.
however, the bug only affects the camera1 API, and most android apps use camera2, at least by default. that is why the âfixâ is for jolla-camera to use camera2
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FYI: I have this also sometimes, depending on the subject.
I have the tripple camera toggle installed from Chum, tnx @nephros , and found that the wide angle camera doesnât have this issue.
So at least i can take pictures reliably that way if needed, although image quality is worse.
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Does anyone have a view on whether the Jolla C2 camera is likely to be better than that on the xperia 10 iii in terms of general quality?
The camera on the 10 iii wasnât bad, infact it made some nice images, but the camera on nearly-10-years-old lumia 950 has it whipped in a lot of situations: even when I was using Open Camera.
As a person who rides bikes quite often, I can confirm this applies to any situation while moving with my Xperia 10 III (this is done on empty rural roads, where you have a controlled and therefore quite safe âhands-freeâ situation, only, if anyoneâs wondering): The picture isnât taken until you come to a standstill. Which is annoying at times. Depending on what you have in focus it happens when you sit in a car as well: Pictures of things going on inside the car tend to work, while landscape photos are at least taken with high latency. Not always but considerably more often.
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I found just the same on the 10 III:
If the rate of change within the viewfinder was greater than a certain %, (so, if you were taking pictures at an aquarium, where the light was constantly moving), then it just wouldnât release the shutter.
The problem seems to affect all 10 IIIs with SFOS.
Considering that only one of the three cameras is meant to work at-all in SFOS, I felt that this was a limitation that shouldâve had something done about it.
OpenCamera works better but its image quality is a bit odd in some situations.
In certain lights, it wasnât exposing faces anywhere-near properly, which when you want to take a picture of family, is a bit of a drawback.
If you set it to Camera API-1 then the images were all bleached-out and very pale.
Setting it to API-2 worked a lot better.
In any event, I found myself carrying my old Lumia around for photography and, the 950 also works better, just as a phone - it doesnât drop calls, doesnât refuse to place or answer a call, and it has the visual voicemail that works well.
So, it was quite nice just to go back to that and have a bit of a detox because the Edge browser is hopeless nowadays.
Iâm hopeful that the C2 community phone is going to feel a bit more âtogetherâ than the 10 III on SFOS, because there were lots of basic things that didnât work right at-all.
Not only the focus,but sometimes the picture is so dark its barely visible.Because of these behaviors I must use OpenCamera via appsupport.Camera its not a problem for me(Sony/Tamron combo) but cannot carry all the time so big and heavy camera with me 
Are you sure API-2 works better than 1 in OpenCamera? From my experience itâs the other way around, any app using the newer API produces pale images
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Hi, Sorry,
I was concentrating on 2 things at once when I was typing before.
Youâre right - it was counter-intuitive to what you would think. The API 1 is better, like you say, and it was API 2 that caused the images to go unusably pale.
I remember now.
I like the idea of decentralising smartphones back into dedicated devices. Thereâs quite a trend around that at the moment, where people will have a normal phone, a tablet, a dedicated camera and a separate MP3 player. youtube serves up a lot of videos around that because there is a definite distrust and antipathy that people have to these new smartphones now.
Sony make an excellent camera, partly because their camera division is inherited from Minolta.
I understand that the alpha series lenses fit the dynax cameras and vice-versa.
But I have a very young daughter and having a large, heavy and expensive camera, which you want to be a long-term investment around small children has a chance of being an expensive decision.
For all its limitations in the modern day, the old 950 takes a very dramatic and atmospheric picture nomatter what you point it at.
The xperia 10 III camera turned out a lot of beautiful images, but somehow, they all âfeltâ the same.
They all had this glossy, polished and slightly sterile quality.
They didnât feel natural somehow.
It was like looking at a woman wearing too much make-up - like they were all airbrushed.
Sony A5000/6000 small and very lightweight mirrorless camera.Never had such small camera myself ,but you must be pretty sure its much better device than the best camera ever been used in phoneâŚeven today Pura70 Ultra etc.
On the other side X10 III camera even it works its just for the moment.Quick shot and thats all.