I had this today whilst in Norway trying to take a picture of a pretty spectacular waterfall at the end of the Briksdal glacier. The camera couldn’t focus because of the moving water and there seemed to be no way to turn the auto focus off. No matter how many times I pressed the shutter button the photo wouldn’t take. It surely can’t be meant to work like this.
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yea, its 100% a bug, and a regression (either between 4.3 and 4.4, or 10III).
jolla needs to get on actually implementing a good camera API with camera2…
Yes, this happens with my Xperia 10 III with 4.4.0.64.
And yes, it’s a bit annoying, but on the other hand i’m sure it will be fixed sooner or later. So i’m patient.
And otherwise i’m pretty satisfied, because i have to admit, Sailfish is a pretty great operating system, and 10 III is a pretty awesome phone.
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yea, SFOS is great, but this thread is neither an endorsement of SFOS or a condemnation. its just a bug report, for a very serious bug.
also, any particular reason you are confident it will be fixed? is there a team working on camera improvements at jolla or something? from their announcements, it seems to me that they consider camera functionality a low priority, and leave it to the community to make it usable.
quick note about my workaround: if you use advanced-camera, you can set it to manual, and then (for example) point the camera at a rock the same distance away, tap to focus, and then move the camera back to the waterfall and snap it without re-focusing
however, if you tap-to-focus on the waterfall, even in manual mode, it will hang forever. i find that, in practice, i accidentally tap-to-focus all the time. im thinking of re-compiling piggz app to require double-tapping or long tapping to focus when in manual mode as a better workaround.
i cannot WAIT for true manual focus (which i hope will be part of any camera2 api SFOS impl). something ive always wanted in my phone but never had…
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heh, it is EXTREMELY EASY to change advanced-camera to do long-press instead of click to focus. edit /usr/share/harbour-advanced-camera/qml/pages/CameraUI.qml as follows:
--- CameraUI.qml
+++ /usr/share/harbour-advanced-camera/qml/pages/CameraUI.qml
@@ -583,7 +583,7 @@
id: mouseFocusArea
anchors.fill: parent
z: -1 //Send to back
- onClicked: {
+ onPressAndHold: {
if (settingsOverlay.panelOpen) {
settingsOverlay.hideAllPanels()
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N900 had that, loong time ago…
Ok, ok, I am sorry 
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HAHAHAHAHAHAH where do you think i learned to want it? my n900 was the last time i actively liked a phone.
Just take a break and chill out, man. All i’m trying is to be nice. Something positive to counterbalance the negative. And why wouldn’t it be fixed, my friend?
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Maybe for the same reason as other bugs not fixed for years? Like e.g. this one, two years and counting:
i was asking, with hopeful sincerity, if you knew of some particular reason it would be fixed.
because, afaict, they don’t fix camera bugs, ever. Xperia X still has a broken focus model, and they just abandoned it and moved on. not to be too snarky, but its not far fetched to guess that in 6 months, SFOS will only really work well on Xperia 11 Mark IV or whatever.
that being said, i was also extremely pessimistic about VoLTE ever being done, but jolla got it done a full month before my 3G got shut down, and it works GREAT. 
Thanks for your bug report @teleshoes. I’ve created an internal report about it and tagged this as “tracked”. It’s possible that this is related to the Camera API 2 which has been discussed elsewhere, but either way it seems to be a valid issue. If I find out more about it, or if there are updates to share, I’ll do my best to post it here.
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I’m quite sure it’s related to the Camera API: With Open Camera (an android app) you can select which API to use. With “Original camera API” the behaviour is similar to our camera app. With “Camera2 API” it behaves a lot better, i.e. it takes pictures even while moving the phone.
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I think I started seeing this on X10II on my «add swap to relieve memory pressure» adventure.
When things become real swappy and laggy, chances of this bug triggering in Camera becomes exponentially higher.
More diagnosis of the problem here. Not so much a bug but unimplemented Sony autofocus (and colour correction) features.
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no. this is very much a bug, just not a SFOS bug.
it IS a vital defect on SFOS 10III, and not on android, however, since there is no native camera2 app AND jolla-camera implements only auto-focus.
jolla-camera could workaround this very serious bug by implementing a focus model similar to AdvancedCamera, which works much much better.
OR, as is already being worked on, develop camera2 api.
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I’ve started having this issue on my Xperia 10iii recently. I’ve always had the odd occasion when the camera refused to take a photo but it seems more prevalent recently. This seemed to coincide with the 4.6.0.13 release however that may be a red herring.
It is very frustrating.
that is a red herring. this bug is not a regression in any sailfish version, because it is actually in the android firmware drivers from sony. in fact, this bug is present on AOSP, and even the native android image, fresh out of sony’s package.
however, the bug only affects the camera1 API, and most android apps use camera2, at least by default. that is why the ‘fix’ is for jolla-camera to use camera2
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FYI: I have this also sometimes, depending on the subject.
I have the tripple camera toggle installed from Chum, tnx @nephros , and found that the wide angle camera doesn’t have this issue.
So at least i can take pictures reliably that way if needed, although image quality is worse.
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Does anyone have a view on whether the Jolla C2 camera is likely to be better than that on the xperia 10 iii in terms of general quality?
The camera on the 10 iii wasn’t bad, infact it made some nice images, but the camera on nearly-10-years-old lumia 950 has it whipped in a lot of situations: even when I was using Open Camera.