There is in my opinion. Like Sony doesn’t give us the blobs needed to make our SFOS phones complete. They simply don’t want us to use the more sustainable operating system, Sailfish.
My five cents, of course.
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You are probably right, but that doesn’t make it right.
People will definitely continue 1-click buys, but hopefully some may think twice.
There’s us adults, but there’s also a new generation or two growing up, I’ll show this to my kids because the first Aliexpress items have been delivered to my door recently…
I’m making a conscience effort to stay away from proprietary systems, paid subscriptions, social media, closed software and even digital money; I’m a millennial and I can see the merits from both the generations that came before, and now after. But I don’t need to pay for my sandwich with my phone (or watch!), I’d rather go the extra mile and preferably pay cash but if I have none on me then at least with my card + PIN.
Not using the 1-click buys either, applying critical thinking instead, I feel robbed when I press “next next” and suddenly I’ve already paid 
I avoid “loaning” games as well, I’m used to getting them on floppies and CD-ROM’s in a neat box with extras, those games are still working, this day and age I get as much games as possible on GOG, and purchase on Steam sparingly; there are too many games with built-in obsolescence, where devs or publishers take the back-end offline; similar to “smart” devices which is another group of products I avoid.
I’ve seen a bit too much sci-fi, post apocalyptic stuff and Black Mirror to want to head toward that kind of future.
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I see and agree.
The indirect implication is evident, I am also waiting for the blobs, desperately!
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Btw, I hope people don’t judge the documentary by my summary, since I left out many interesting things to keep it reasonably short.
It’s true that the ‘big picture’ presented in the documentary is pretty well-known already. The documentary certainly featured some details I wasn’t aware of before watching it.
For example, most plastic packaging products that have recycling labels aren’t actually recyclable - and even if they were, they’d probably be burned or buried anyway.
I think the main purpose of the documentary was that nothing is going to change by putting our faith on companies and consumers, since neither one has an incentive to lose money. Unfortunately, the last bit of the documentary concentrating on solving problems is really short and sort of abstract.
It’s just food for thought! It got me thinking how there are so many reasons we need dedicated hardware to run Linux on smartphones and how we need a new category on the forum for this type of discussion. 
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Nice!!! Unfortunately, nowadays because of this shitty fast fashion, T-shirts do not last 20 years. I am not able to find T-shirts that last more than 1-2 years. Even the expensive ones are shit nowadays.
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And yet many users here basically begged Jolla to introduce a subscription. I think for them @eson 's recommendation is useful.
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3 years, 1 hole, but I still wear it.
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Yeah, wait long enough and it comes back into fashion!! 
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My understanding, from the android modders arena, is that Sony is very different in provding sources to build both the system AND vendor partitions, and that task is very hard to open source, like the same amount of time to build the proprietary stock ones.
What this means is that you have a larger percent of open source software on your phone.
Other devices are adapted by just changing the system partition.
What this means is that you have a larger percent of "Android closed“ software on your phone.
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And your wife doesn’t complain? 
Not when working in the garden.
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That’s a big difference - supporting Jolla to have a more reliable economical base OR to be domestic cattle/cashcow for GAFAM & Co. to deliver us panem et circenses.
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Kind of agree with Seven of Nine on that here.
I’m Dutch so I’m cheap, basically, but I paid the license for my Xperia 10 III, and I’d probably paid it as well if the price was 3x higher.
Now from what I’m understanding you can cancel the Jolla subscription at any point, whilst keeping the premium features (OS version, Android compatibility layer, predictive text, etc.), you only need to reactivate your subscription when you want to update the OS to the latest version.
For me, being cheap, that’ll probably be a micromanagement game of paying the shortest subscription whilst always being up-to-date.
But Jolla earns the money, I think they deserve it, but if you don’t force me to pay it I’m not one to quickly donate voluntary either I’m afraid; I’ve recently done a decent donation to ichthyosaurus but that’s quite rare for me.
So yeah, it’s a difficult situation all in all, is anyone gonna pay a €150 license for SFOS? Perhaps a handful…, are people being scared away by a subscription? I think so. Does Jolla need more money? I think that’s quite obvious.
I’d rather pay a significant sum to Jolla once than continuously pay with data on Android; and for multiple reasons Apple is not an option for me either.
Netflix in this discussion is different, they charge for 4 channels to access their 4k content, whilst I only need one, but disallow sharing with my family, and limit their content to 720p with their DRM protections because I’m happening to be running Linux on my HTPC… instead of their crappy Android apps.
In the mean time Netflix HQ is located in the Netherlands, so they pay about 2% TAX, and are under heavy tax fraud investigations right now.
They’ve progressed far into Enshittification so I’ve taken the personal stance that anyone boycotting that company is doing the world a service.
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So this is your way of “supporting” Jolla by “gaming” the system to have possible cheapest fee?!?!? If you advocate for subscription, pay it fair and square.
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I’m pretty sure you’re reading exactly as little as you want to read and then make a deal out of it 
You’ve quoted a message from me before further up in this thread, what was the quoted part from that message? Look it up! It’s your answer!
Regarding your quote here and this message, am I advocating for subscription? No I’m not. I’m saying the situation is difficult, Jolla could up their prices and scare away people, they could implement subscriptions but that would scare away people too, they could go bankrupt but then we’d all be pulling the shortest straw.
There is no right or wrong, they need more money, and subscriptions are one way to get it, doesn’t mean I won’t go cheap if they’ll allow me to. I’m paying the cheapest fee (€50) for my current phone to Jolla as well, I’ve got their bank account, I could donate €2k, but I think I’ve mentioned some times now that I’m cheap!
Subscription or not, Jolla is still cheap, you can’t put a price on privacy and freedom really.
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Thank you! Good summary of contemporary consumerism, specifically concerning electronics. I often felt a stranger here when I said things like this. Also Telecom plays a decisive role by rushing from 2G to 5G and further. And not to forget the ever increasing need for electricity by servers.
Apple was on the frontline in the push for new, but I must say that its phones last long. A refurbished device from 2018 still works well.
They are made from aluminium, not from plastic. You are perfectly correct about microplastics and nanoplastics. They are ‘forever chemicals’. They are found in human brains already. As there are hundreds of different plastics, the focus on recycling is a deceit, for only a few kinds can be recycled and that only a few times.
Six years ago husband and I were asked to shop without plastic for a month and to give a report about our findings. We made study of it and we still do our best. Not easy, but it helps when you manage to avoid supermarkets as much as possible and are prepared to abstain from certain products, just as we obstain from some features and possibilities on Sailfish.
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Most plastic i have to dispose is fu**ing food packages.
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Yes. We live in corporatocracies with companies like supermarkets and industries so big and sovereign that they can force everything upon us.
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