Xperia 1 IV, 5 IV and 10 IV support

Sorry for not being clear enough.

A) No, it has literally been said to be likely. No less, no more.

Yes “likely”. That’s not 100% confirmation for me. I just want to be careful and maybe I am wrong.

B) I don’t see anyone making false promises anywhere.

That is correct, I just want to be careful. So all good :slight_smile:

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As a heads-up for Finns, if you feel confident to bite bullet at this point (like I did), Elisa is currently giving -50 € for 10 V for existing customers, so selling at 350 €.

The devices especially in colors other than black seem to be on low or very low stock, so it may again be a struggle to find one if you wait until the official announcement by Jolla (if there indeed will be one for 10 V at all). Then again, you may score a end-of-stock sale at that time. This is the part in my Sailfish hobby I do not enjoy.

I would highly recommend checking the used market too. Not only it is less possible e-waste, but the price can be much lower and the availability much higher.
I got 2 * 10 III last year for 120€ each and just now I got a 3 month old 10 V for 160€ (including shipping and fees).

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I also got a 10v from Elisa. Price €349.

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I second the recommendation to check the local second-hand market, especially for the 10 III and 10 IV that are no longer ‘latest models’. I also got recently a ‘spare’ 10 III for around 100 €.

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Everyone thinking of getting a Xperia 10 V remember it doesn’t have the notification LED anymore unfortunately… Xperia 10 IV still has it.

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I second the recommendation to check the local second-hand

So do I. A quick search today, on Swedish second hand market, gave several “never used” X10V around 230 €.

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It’s a valid point, but I myself tend to keep and use my Sailfish phones for what I believe pretty much is their planned lifetime. After 2+ years of daily driving the battery tends to be worse for the wear to my liking and I start looking for a new device. This far the accidental every-other-device-bought-new strategy has been working well for me: Jolla 1 (Mar 2015) → Aqua Fish (Nov 2016) → XA2 (Feb 2019) → 10 II (Jun 2021).

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I just won an auction on an unopened X10V for 220 €. :smiley:

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Also remember in 10iii the led is still not fully functional and defaults to a constant bright green light.
One of the questions we need to ask is how many new bugs/missing features the new portings will bring and not compare hw specs on paper. Sorry being pessimistic.

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Could you elaborate on this? The led on my 10iii shows different colors depending on type of notification.

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on notification it only turns on and change colour, it cannot flash or breath periodically

I prefer constant any day over blinking, so now it is fully functional to me.

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It goes to bright green when charging, which is confusing with the email notification. Maybe someone on the forum knows if we can send commands to tune the hex color codes of the different notifications.

You can edit the colors and pattern of the Notification-LED in:

/etc/mce/20hybris-led.ini

create a backup of this File before editing and be sure to have the developer-mode enabled, in case you have to revert to the original if something bad happen.

then

systemctl restart mce.service

I once had the Idea to create a Options-Entry for editing the LED-Color and Pattern as a Patch. But i don´t feel skilled enough with Patches for this Task. Someone with good SailfishOS-Coding-Knownledge should do it. If someone is interested, i can build and support a static Qt-Page with a possible Design for it.

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No.
4.5.0.24, Xperia 10 III

Why should it do so?

Jolla just have to move on to new Xperia phone. Dwelling on unsolved buf for years wont work. The hw unpgrades so much each year and it takes 3-4 years for a os port, then probably need to just move on. I am glad that Jolla finally profits and reconstructed internally, but the pace on supporting new devices are just too slow, it will still make people move away from the Sailfish. Or they can talk to Sony to for a better supported device. I am usimg Xperia 10iii, I am still feel much outdated, even though Librem 5 and pinephone linux phonea are worse. Sailfish is the only linux os that is daily usable, device support is the only drawback.

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Just curious: Are there any numbers on the development of the user base?

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I bought an Android with 12 GB RAM and I’m using it as my daily driver. Anything else I could live with, but hated out of ram occurring when needing navigation. Each and every time. I even stopped using android and going native.