Sailfish Community News, 15th June, Opal

[ichthyosaurus]

@karry

its QML part is licensed under BSD if I’m not mistaken

Sadly, most of the more recent additions have either no copyright header or an explicit “License: Proprietary” notice. It seems these files were mostly modified by Open Mobile Platform and now that Jolla is severing ties with Russia, maybe they (Jolla) can rethink their stance…

@karry

What about re-implement it with some open license?

That should be possible but its a massive and unnecessary amount of work - Jolla could simply decide to open it up. All the things people are patching now through Patchmanager could then be upstreamed.

@karry

It would allow easy porting of SFOS apps to other mobile platforms or even running UI on x86_64 during development…

Exactly, plus it would make Sailfish independent of Jolla’s financial situation. If they decide one day to discontinue Sailfish, or if they don’t have the money to continue, then all the community effort has been for nothing as all Sailfish apps can’t run anywhere else.

[ichthyosaurus]

Thank you @flypig for this article and for giving me the opportunity to talk about my work!

@flypig

I’d like to see the ability to import entries this way too, and it would also be useful to be able to export single entries rather than just the entire diary. This would make it a great tool for writing short missives for upload to a website platform such as Hugo or Jekyll.

I was thinking already about exporting search results, maybe I could expand that to make it more flexible. Regarding importing: you’re not the first to request this but I’m hesitant to implement something without a concrete use case. Did you think of re-importing exported data? Or importing from other file formats? Maybe even the notes app?

@flypig

Version 1.0.0 of Laundry App is available from the Jolla Store and OpenRepos

Does it show up in the Jolla Store for anyone? It was accepted but I don’t see it on my phone…

[vlagged]

@ichthyosaurus

Does it show up in the Jolla Store for anyone? It was accepted but I don’t see it on my phone…

It doesn’t show here either.

Also - I’m confused how I missed the Opal announcement by ichtyosaurus and now a community news made by flypig in June 15h… is this 2023? (Or am I replying to a last year thread)

Way to go, folks!

(now back to debugging my droidmedia:)

[attah]

I see it. Are you on old versions for some reason?

[poetaster]

@ichthyosaurus

Does it show up in the Jolla Store for anyone? It was accepted but I don’t see it on my phone…

It’s been available for a while. I see it on 4.5 devices, in any case. Could be that some include is 4.5 only. I noticed that with ‘Solver’. I think I used a Quick declaration that’s a bit new? 2.6?

[nephros]

@ichthyosaurus

@karry

its QML part is licensed under BSD if I’m not mistaken

Sadly, most of the more recent additions have either no copyright header or an explicit “License: Proprietary” notice. It seems these files were mostly modified by Open Mobile Platform and now that Jolla is severing ties with Russia, maybe they (Jolla) can rethink their stance…

There was a remark from Jolla somewhere that these license remarks in files don’t matter that much, and that J own the rights to all of that regardless.

Probably something in the original licensing agreement between J and OMP.

But I can’t find the quote atm.

[throwaway69]

Doesn’t show for me in the jolla store (4.5)

[mSorvisto]

Same here with XA2 3.4 and 10III 4.5. Visible in Storeman on both devices.

[Systematics]

Thank you as always for this great newsletter. It is always a nice read. Also big thank you to each contributor (jolla employee or opensource sailor). Great job.

[vlagged]

No, 4.5.0.19 64-bit on both Mi Note 10 and Zenfone 8.
I don’t see it on my official Xperia 10 32-bit either while searching for Laundry or in recent apps

[ichthyosaurus]

Thanks to everyone for checking the store! I think it might be an 32bit vs. 64bit issue: I’m using an Xperia X (32bit), @vlagged is on 32bit too, while @mSorvisto is on 64bit, right? That’s weird though, because I built it for all three architectures and I’m using that build on my phone.

@attah

Are you on old versions for some reason?

No, latest 4.5…

@poetaster

It’s been available for a while. I see it on 4.5 devices, in any case. Could be that some include is 4.5 only. I noticed that with ‘Solver’. I think I used a Quick declaration that’s a bit new? 2.6?

IIRC, importing QtQuick 2.6 shouldn’t be an issue since SFOS 3.x.

[ichthyosaurus]

@nephros

There was a remark from Jolla somewhere that these license remarks in files don’t matter that much, and that J own the rights to all of that regardless.

Probably something in the original licensing agreement between J and OMP.

But I can’t find the quote atm.

That would be nice, at least… There was also a remark from Jolla somewhere (don’t find it either right now) that BSD headers “don’t mean it’s BSD” - which isn’t how licensing works, I think. So let’s hope you’re right and hope that they change their minds :).

[mSorvisto]

@ichthyosaurus

Thanks to everyone for checking the store! I think it might be an 32bit vs. 64bit issue: I’m using an Xperia X (32bit), @vlagged is on 32bit too, while @mSorvisto is on 64bit, right?

AFAIK XA2 is 32bit and 10III is 64bit.

[poetaster]

Just checked. Right you are. I still haven’t figured out what’s flagging my Solver as > 4.5 only. Works fine on 3.4 (from chum).

[Seven.of.nine]

Opal shows up in Jolla Store and Storeman (on Volla / 4.4.0.64).
Also the same on Xperia 10 / 4.5.0.19.

[ichthyosaurus]

@mSorvisto

AFAIK XA2 is 32bit and 10III is 64bit.

@Seven.of.nine

Opal shows up in Jolla Store and Storeman (on Volla / 4.4.0.64).
Also the same on Xperia 10 / 4.5.0.19.

Hmm, then it makes no sense…

Does anyone know if there is a way to contact the Harbour team?

[poetaster]

@poetaster

Works fine on 3.4 (from chum).

Wrong. Some days I use too many devices. There are several reasons install won’t work on 3.4.

[poetaster]

I think I may have a clue. Actually, @olf had a merge request that contained:

%define _binary_payload w2.xzdio

as an rpm macro to ensure that the rpm compression would work pre 4.4 that might also be an issue depending on the port?

[mSorvisto]

Opal is visible on both devices. Laundry list is not.

[vige]

@ichthyosaurus

Does anyone know if there is a way to contact the Harbour team?

Yes

Laundry List should now be visible. The real root cause is still under investigation.