Paid subscription to updates

Platform Development
#194

I dislike the “pay us monthly or you lose everything” model. Still, it’s clear that Jolla can’t operate without a decent, predictable revenue stream and I would hate (at least as much) losing them and Sailfish OS.So, I have been buying new licenses, more or less making it into a subscription anyway.

I think an actual subscription could be made to work in a similar fashion, if the terms make it clear that one is still entitled to the latest version received while the subscription was still active.

Today the license is bound to the device, so revenue would drop as people upgrade their devices. (My Xperia X is still running, but I’m likely in the minority.) But what if licenses were bound to the person instead? Then a subscription would make more sense, as the license could be brought along when that person gets a new phone (and decomissions the old one).

Or, what about a mix? License fee up front, then a subscription after, say, 12 months.

Maybe transferring the license to a new device could come at 50% of the full license fee? (Subscription covers ongoing general improvement, transfer fee covers the work done for device adaptation.)

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#195

Perhaps Irrelevant;
but would this “paid updates” then allow for community ports to be finance-able as well?
Or is it something worthy of the “mainline” SFOS / official ports only?

#196

Do you mean, “Would «paid updates» also affect community ports, i.e. would users of community ports also have to pay for their updates?”
I would assume so, unless one re-flashes to upgrade SailfishOS by using a newer image.

Side note: All community ports are done by persons in their spare time for free AFAICS, hence they are not “financed” at all.

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#197

That’s why I used the “allow” word.
It would be a positive thing indeed for community ports, no?
And perhaps even help spread the effort to get more devices to SFOS (porters would get some sort of support).

But perhaps for Jolla it would work only on a revenue-share basis…

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#198

If Jolla would share the revenue from “paid updates” with community porters: yes.
I do not think that is Jolla’s intention for a multitude of reasons, one being the effort to implement the required logistical infrastructure: Community porters would have to register themselves with their banking information at Jolla.

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#199

See, I did not say Jolla would share part of the revenues; that’s never going to happen.
The community would share them (for the devices ported) to Jolla.

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#200

Wat?

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#201

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#202

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#203

Community could leverage the (eventual) paid upgrades infra of Jolla for community ports; at a partial cost of the total price (could be the same?)
meaning that community port upgrades could be payable as well (to port maintainers via Jolla infra).

#204

These are your words Deloptes, not mine.

#205

It still happens that my words are getting hidden for no reason, so I start re-posting them as soon as they get hidden. This is my new way of protest.

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#206

So, you are admitting spamming?

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#207

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#209

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#210

Not just yours. Some members of this forum even censor their own right to be properly informed, as you can see e.g. here.

There is a race here who wants to pay Jolla more money, whereas in exchange you can’t even expect to be properly informed about which device is to be supported while the last untis disappear from the stores as we speak.

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#211

Yup - it is about 10y already and basic things don’t work. There is no proper communication, but we are censored for speaking freely

If you ask me this is a scam by the fins that exited Nokia (or should I say) were kicked out. Imagine this business case:

  1. you pretend to be something
  2. you have a good code base

You manage to convince some investors that you can sell a phone, a tablet, a watch … whatever.
You receive a lot of money - you spend the money (pay bills etc. etc. - life in Finland is not that cheep. it is cold - you need to heat up your home, drive the car etc. etc.)
So you need a user base to show that your product has future - so you lie to the investors, the user base - you do change something here and there and relay on enthusiasts to work for free, but you don’t care about the product, cause the only thing you care is how to get more enthusiasts and investors, because you need more money.

This is what I am suspecting is happening - or at least one possible interpretation, assuming the guys are smart enough

The other possible interpretation is very tragic - they are good skilled developers who did not get it for 10y and could not make it work - which I was referring as Nokia syndrome.

The first one I could understand - the second one is actually very tragic.

Oh and I see you are being flagged and censored also without any reason.

COWARDS STOP FLAGGING ANONYMOUSLY :smiley:

I know you will hide this post as well, but it needed to be said

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#212

I don’t know what woke is, but hearing about its omnipresent ills repeatedly in a forum about a small alternative smartphone OS is getting tedious.

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#213

Five hidden replies. I suppose full of

censorship vaccination lizard people communism yadda yadda flat earth all nazis except ma and me yadda yadda free speech for the dumb yadda yadda…

Half of this thread is unreadable.

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