The people using it are all those around this community that know what it is. A bunch of thousands at best.
And those will probably buy any device on sale that can run it decently. For the rest its a no go from the start. It doesn’t run their favorite spyware.
TBH even for the geeks around here and their needs is not completely ready yet (as an OS).
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USBC up and down.
There could be handy USBC up top of the phone.
It’s boring to have only one down to do multiple jobs.
All remember the old days during the jolla1 there was idea to add properties by changing back cover.
Nowadays there endless amounts of handy USBC devices from borescopes, sd-storages, torch to dronefallers etc. 
My opinion is to have one quality telescope camera pointing for example top. Not back or front. Then add for example mirror “flip cover” on it and while opening shutter it can point u to make video call or whatever social with face. Also flashlight as torch will be more practical when its located top. U could even left Your phone quickly on the desk to light something or for a group photo.
Finally. It’s understandable to create same model of phone each time again and again. Anyhow one day there comes old ideas again and push through. For example history of touch screens or gaming focused phones.
Thank You, and best success for eachothers projects whatever We dreaming about.
Good ideas. For the future. As there will be something revealed very soon.
I’m thrilled. But I bet it is something AI related.
The picture shows part of a phone…
That is a small and important detail. My hopes are up!
Why did it become a 6.36” phone when 88% of all voters wanted either a 5” or 6” phone and only 12% voted for 7”? Wouldn’t that mandate an e.g. 5.6” phone?
Realistically, 6.36” was as close as they could probably get to a 6” phone.
Like it as small as possible 5”. Just as the Sony xperia X. Ram of 12 in it is just perfect.
I’m pretty sure I read a post by rainemak earlier in this or another thread that they realistically couldn’t use a smaller screen based on the other specifications people had voted for, so it was either a smaller screen and skimping on everything else, or this.
I had hope that headphone jack will be included, but as I see on renders it’s excluded 
Let’s make this “Minor alteration”
People always seem to think it is easy to get a small screen on a smartphone… There is a motherboard you need to put into your phone and many other chips, batteries, etc.. Those are not developed by Jolla and need to fit into the case… a small screen does not give you enough space in a case to put modern hardware build today into a phone if you do not add a very big border without any use around it which would be insane…
There’s Nokia X30 from 3 years ago 6.43 inch display in 159 x 74 mm size for 240 Euro. Maybe an option.
There’s Motorola Edge 50 Neo from last year 6.4 inches in 154.1 x 71.2 mm that sells for 240 Euro. So the parts are still there.
OnePlus 13S, Oppo Reno15, vivo X300, Xiaomi 17, Meizu 22 - All these came out in the last 3 months aka yesterday. All of them fit everything top notch but headphone jack for 600 Euro Max. All of them are approximately 6.3 inch display in 150 x 70 mm size. The parts are there!
Jolli Boiz could’ve put some effort fitting a 6,3 inch display in 152 x 70 mm body!
I’m late into this topic, I don’t read that much this forum.
I think a feature which could be nice, and very Jolla-core, is to bring back TOH. I get the technical challenges this will induce, but I think of one possiblity which built a community and lead to other community smartphones : the possibility to add a physical keyboard.
When thinking about it, TOH is a good way to release pkbd smartphones, because it’s optional allowing users to choose from the same design, it’s easy to swap the layouts, and the unsold keyboards can be reused in the next smartphone generations. In term of budget it’s not that high, because you only need to design the idea once, and it can be reimplemented in as much devices as you want. It will also provide to Jolla phones a very unique feature and touch, which can attract to SFOS a new public from the niche just wanting a pkbd smartphone, especially since the last phones with this are few years old, or can have “surprising” batteries.
On a personnal side, the lack of possibility to add a keyboard without bluetooth is more or less the main reason I don’t buy Jolla phones and stay on a Pro1. I would be happy to upgrade my phone, but not at the price of the pkbd.
NB : pkbd = physical keyboard
You are aware that the J2 has a 6.36” screen on it already? That is not very different and the size difference isn’t huge neighter.
And do those phones you talk about have removeable batteries, removeable backplates, expandable storage, dual sim, etc > so the same feature set which might increase size? I do not think it is that easy to do it and I think it is just no longer worth it trying, because it will always have a lot of other drawbacks too and the overall direction is bigger not smaller. (making it more expensive because there are less parts and less quantities of the parts on the market to build smaller)
Sony Xperia X Compact has all that plus 3.5 jack and lacks the removable battery in the size of 129 x 65 x 9.5 mm. So definitely easier to achieve the whole pack using 6.3” display in smaller form than what Jolla 2 is! Would be much better to hold a 1mm thicker phone than 1cm longer and 1/2cm wider phone.
Yeah, and if Jolla would be a multi hundreds of millions euro/dollar company with 500 million users they likely could lead the market and make manufactures create things smaller today and getting great, newly developed cooling solutions and so on for small form factors at the same performance levels, etc.
But the Sony Xperia X Compact is not a new smartphone anymore… 10 years ago something like this was much easier because the whole market was smaller… today it is not.
Even if you would be fine with the hardware from 2016 (which I and many others would not be fine with) you could not get those hardware in higher quantities today anymore.
The Sony Xperia X Compact is from 2016, the J2 is going to be 2026.
And even if you could fight this and there would be one or two smartphones on the market today who could archieve something like that still… Jolla would have to fight a lot of fights and struggles because of that additional to the already hard task to create a smartphone outside of the big tech…
I haven’t seen the final screen size yet, so I haven’t placed an order.
I hope the new phone’s screen is 5 inches, at least smaller than 6 inches. Also, I hope the camera module doesn’t protrude; I believe most people want a relatively light phone, not a thin one.
Finally, I hope the new phone perfectly replicates the classic design of the Nokia N9. HDM’s Skyline claimed it was a replica of the Nokia N9, but it turned out to be a hybrid, neither fish nor fowl.
It’s listed in the spec on the product page for it. 